For Bertie

Dan Luke wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote:

NO! NOT THAT STORY AGAIN! :-)

My fault; I fell for the trap.

I enjoyed the story, though.


Looks like the joke was on me this time :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

Looks like 5 will be the magic number to retire this one for good.


Naaah. In a couple more years, there will be a substantially new crowd that
will not have heard about the "hornless cow story".

Then you will trot it out again! g
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote

Looks like 5 will be the magic number to retire this one for good.


Naaah. In a couple more years, there will be a substantially new crowd that
will not have heard about the "hornless cow story".

Then you will trot it out again! g

That's HORNY cow!! Any cow caught up in my story has to be a sport'in
bovine!!!

--
Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

That's HORNY cow!! Any cow caught up in my story has to be a sport'in
bovine!!!

SOOO sorry! ! ! BFG
--
Jim in NC

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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It's the old guys like us who HAVE the stories....simply because we've
survived most of them :-))


Actaully, I could dine out for a week on the storis I had by the time I
was 22. I was a very poor listener.

Sometimes when I actually have the time to sit down and reflect on
some
of the absolutely wild crap I've gotten into and out of in my career
it
scares the hell out of me :-))


I figure it's mostly been a dream.

Take my "famous"... (with the family at least) story about the day I
took the horns off a cow with a P51. Now THERE'S a story!!

This story is so good that every year at Thanksgiving when I forget
everybody in the house has heard it a thousand times and trot it out
for
the whole table it's met with shouts of enthusiasm and excitement as
they anxiously await every word of it.
"Oh NO!! Not AGAIN!!!!"
"Jeeze,,Holy Cow Hon....not the damn COW story again!!"

Yup!!!....they can't WAIT to hear the cow story!


I have one with hornets...Since it ends up with me being stung and
covered in **** everone enjoys it.


Bertie

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Dan Luke wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

"Jeeze,,Holy Cow Hon....not the damn COW story again!!"

Oh, no you don't, Dudley. You're not getting away without telling
the cow story.

But it better not start with "This ain't no bull***t..."



A HA!!! I snagged one!!!.....and my wife told me this old trick I play
on the family each year would NEVER work on the sharp guys on "RAP"

Well, if you INSIST on hearing the cow story and have fallen prey to
my unashamed trolling segue invitation.....here it is.

Please forgive my pasting it in below, but this thing has been bandied
around our family so much I finally made a copy and saved it for email
use
:-)

The P51 Cow Story ( Or as it's known around the Henriques
household...
"The Dudley's Horny Story"

I remember one time; I was out playing some formation acro with a
buddy of

mine out over the boonies. Both of us were flying Mustangs. I usually
flew

the wing position when we did this.[ I never told John, but I had this

aversion to having that big Hamilton of his that close up my

butt...especially if we had been out the night before!! :-) ]

Anyway, I'm tucked in on his left wing back and down about twenty feet
when

he calls for a 4 g loop. I slide back and inside just enough to get a
45

degree paint between my windshield bow mirror and his left well cover

[the position for a vertical maneuver that keeps me from slicing off
his tail section and bending my prop!! ]

Well, I noticed the altimeter was a bit low

at the maneuver onset, but still within parameters for the loop. John
calls

the maneuver and walks us up to 4g's. I'm glued on the paint ; holding

position. You get a peripheral view of the horizon holding a position
paint

in formation acro. Without taking my eyes off John, I knew he was long
over

the top. On the way down I felt we were long as well. The g didn't
feel

right...it wasn't enough! Anyway, I'm beginning now to feel the g
building

at a faster rate than I should be feeling......and this ain't good!!
We're

past vertical and I can see the ground under his wing. You know that
awful

feeling you get when you know you are in too deep? Well I had it right

there!!! You mentally do the math and geometry instantly in these

situations. I could see we were going to make it, but it was going to
be

close....damn close!

I could "feel" that we had enough g available to make the recovery
arc, but

being low and outside, I was committed lower than John was. He eased
us out

with enough room under my airplane to maybe stuff a cornstalk between
me and the

ground. Then I notice we're "in" a field with trees at the end ahead
of us.

There, right in front of me is this cow. He was eating grass with his
head way down low. I instantly had the thought flash through my head
that I was low enough that if he raised his head to take a peek at
what was barreling at him at a good 250mph I stood a damn good chance
of taking his horns off with the tips of my prop.

I shouted "Break...Break up!!...Give me some room, quick!!! " John
pulls up

just in time for me to miss the cow and go knife edge between two
trees at the end of the

field. I swear, I flew between them left wing down, standing on the
right

rudder!

Well, all's well that end's well I guess. I missed the cow, missed the
trees and missed the houses. One could say I REALLY "missed" up!!!


End of stupid Dudley story! Needless to say, we had a few beers that

night while we went over entry altitudes and g profiles for pilots who
wish

to live longer lives! :-)))



Whew.

NEver had that close a call doing aerobaitcs, I don't think . Well, not
technicaly anyway. You were one lucky boy!

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:



It's the old guys like us who HAVE the stories....simply because we've
survived most of them :-))


Actaully, I could dine out for a week on the storis I had by the time I
was 22. I was a very poor listener.
Sometimes when I actually have the time to sit down and reflect on
some
of the absolutely wild crap I've gotten into and out of in my career
it
scares the hell out of me :-))


I figure it's mostly been a dream.

Take my "famous"... (with the family at least) story about the day I
took the horns off a cow with a P51. Now THERE'S a story!!

This story is so good that every year at Thanksgiving when I forget
everybody in the house has heard it a thousand times and trot it out
for
the whole table it's met with shouts of enthusiasm and excitement as
they anxiously await every word of it.
"Oh NO!! Not AGAIN!!!!"
"Jeeze,,Holy Cow Hon....not the damn COW story again!!"

Yup!!!....they can't WAIT to hear the cow story!


I have one with hornets...Since it ends up with me being stung and
covered in **** everone enjoys it.


Bertie


These self deprecating stories do seem to be the best received stories.
It's funny about "stories". Take the one I've posted here about the cow.
I kid with this one a great deal and have had some fun with it over the
years, but there's another side to this story.

I've used it as well in safety seminars where I've been asked to speak
with war bird pilots on flight safety issues. Of course in that venue
the more serious side of the same story is emphasized and all the self
deprecation crap is put aside.
When talking to war bird pilots, the cow becomes incidental to the fact
that the lead in a two ship formation loop has to be velvet smooth,
leave the trailer a few extra inches of manifold pressure and positive g
to fool with to use in maintaining position, and most of all, go through
the high gate position on speed, on altitude, and correctly in the float.

Stories from us "older folk" have their place in aviation. The same
story can be funny for a forum or it can be a much needed reminder that
has the potential to save lives.
But.....I digress.........aging by the minute........remembering old
stories :-))
D

--
Dudley Henriques

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:37:26 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
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Stories from us "older folk" have their place in aviation. The same
story can be funny for a forum or it can be a much needed reminder that
has the potential to save lives.


I find them enjoyable and informative reading. It would be valuable
indeed if these and similar stories were all posted in one place, so
they would have meaningful titles and wouldn't disappear under all the
follow up articles and other flotsam in rec.aviation.piloting.

What would it take to get you and John, and whoever else has a few
yarns to spin, to post these gems to rec.aviation.stories? Then we
could set the follow ups to rec.aviation.piloting, so comments and
corrections to them would still be possible.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:37:26 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
:

Stories from us "older folk" have their place in aviation. The same
story can be funny for a forum or it can be a much needed reminder that
has the potential to save lives.


I find them enjoyable and informative reading. It would be valuable
indeed if these and similar stories were all posted in one place, so
they would have meaningful titles and wouldn't disappear under all the
follow up articles and other flotsam in rec.aviation.piloting.

What would it take to get you and John, and whoever else has a few
yarns to spin, to post these gems to rec.aviation.stories? Then we
could set the follow ups to rec.aviation.piloting, so comments and
corrections to them would still be possible.


How can I say this the right way???

I have spent the better part of my life directly and indirectly
associated with saving the lives of people who fly airplanes.

With all due respect to Usenet, for the "self deprecating" side of the
equation, I find Usenet the perfect venue for old stories, but for
presenting anything having a lasting effect on the flight safety side of
the equation, I would find any venue referring to an input from me as "a
few yarns to spin" the last place on earth I would go thinking that this
input would help the flight safety issue :-))

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll post a "story" on Usenet from time to time,
but I expect no useful result from this venue on the flight safety
issue.......perhaps someone telling me to "f**k off once in a while, or
someone with a plastic stick on their desktop "correcting me" by telling
me that something I've been doing for fifty years and teaching people
who teach others whatto do for fifty years is all wrong, but little more
than that.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:42:05 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:37:26 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote in
:

Stories from us "older folk" have their place in aviation. The same
story can be funny for a forum or it can be a much needed reminder that
has the potential to save lives.


I find them enjoyable and informative reading. It would be valuable
indeed if these and similar stories were all posted in one place, so
they would have meaningful titles and wouldn't disappear under all the
follow up articles and other flotsam in rec.aviation.piloting.

What would it take to get you and John, and whoever else has a few
yarns to spin, to post these gems to rec.aviation.stories? Then we
could set the follow ups to rec.aviation.piloting, so comments and
corrections to them would still be possible.


How can I say this the right way???

I have spent the better part of my life directly and indirectly
associated with saving the lives of people who fly airplanes.

With all due respect to Usenet, for the "self deprecating" side of the
equation, I find Usenet the perfect venue for old stories, but for
presenting anything having a lasting effect on the flight safety side of
the equation, I would find any venue referring to an input from me as "a
few yarns to spin" the last place on earth I would go thinking that this
input would help the flight safety issue :-))

I understand that point of view. But, I'm confused by your posting
valuable, safety related information over the years. That seems to be
contradictory.

Thanks, but no thanks. I'll post a "story" on Usenet from time to time,

Great! That's what I was asking.

Are you aware that the rec.aviation.stories newsgroup exists just for
that purpose? See for yourself; here's the charter:


CHARTER:

A home for one of the greatest strengths of rec.aviation --
longer postings of stories and experiences, including
descriptions of cross-country trips, "I learned about flying from
that", airshow reports, and so on.


but I expect no useful result from this venue on the flight safety
issue.......perhaps someone telling me to "f**k off once in a while, or
someone with a plastic stick on their desktop "correcting me" by telling
me that something I've been doing for fifty years and teaching people
who teach others whatto do for fifty years is all wrong, but little more
than that.

I can understand your frustration and low expectation; Usenet seems to
have significantly devolved since the general public gained access to
it. Unfortunately, it's going to take participants with vision and a
sincere desire to elevate the content of this newsgroup to effect any
change for the better.

Usenet is self-governed without a central authority; that's both the
egalitarian beauty and anarchical bane of Usenet. It's predicated on
the noble notion that individuals are capable of governing themselves,
and seek to apply their creativity toward improving it.

Perhaps I'm tilting windmills, but I feel the responsibility to make
an effort to raise the newsgroup's signal-to-noise ratio is incumbent
on its participants. And I suspect that there is a silent majority
who would agree. Unfortunately, there is a vocal minority who feel no
such responsibility. But personally, I've got to make the effort.

What you choose to do is up to you.