Excellent TV Piece on GA

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I doubt these are the only reasons. The return on investment is what
ultimately matters and is perceived differently by different people
when it comes to investing $6000. Just as I don't have any
particularly strong interest in learning to rock climb, I can imagine
there are those who view flying with a similar apathy. In the end it
would be hard to make the case that the PPL has a greater practical
utility than say, learning to ride a horse. PPL flying is a niche
hobby, and its hard to imagine that would change anytime soon.

Hmmm. I've spent the last 13 years flying my family from coast to
coast, Canada to Mexico, on vacations ranging from overnight to two
weeks in duration. I've flown hundreds of times in support of my
business(es) during that time as well.

Leaving from Iowa City I can be in Chicago for brunch, St Louis for
dinner, and home by the 10 o'clock news. Do *that* on a horse!

Likewise! Leaving from Cheyenne, I can check on projects in Lincoln, NE,
Manhattan, KS, and Alva, OK and be home for dinner. The next day, I can
check on three other projects in-progress.

That kind of flexibility isn't available in an airline, a car, and certainly
not a horse.

We'll do $5.7 in business this DOWN year.
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

Matt W. Barrow wrote:
We'll do $5.7 in business this DOWN year.

Wow. That'll buy about a gallon and a half of 100LL these days if you're
lucky. Congrats.

"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:
We'll do $5.7 in business this DOWN year.

Wow. That'll buy about a gallon and a half of 100LL these days if you're
lucky. Congrats.

Make that $5.7M.

C'mon fingers!
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:
We'll do $5.7 in business this DOWN year.

Wow. That'll buy about a gallon and a half of 100LL these days if
you're lucky. Congrats.

Make that $5.7M.


I see you went to the Geroge Bush school of math and economics.


Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote in news:0c06a846-b3c5-4e93-8237-
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At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country,


What, Jebus drinks in Iowaer bars?


Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote:
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I *did* pee in a cup (which was never
looked at. Either that or they ran a urine analyis in the ten minutes
I was actually in the doc's office)
....

They dip it for sugar, takes about 30 seconds with a reagent strip.

Margy

Jay Honeck wrote:
At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.


Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
You need to find your slowest weeks during the year and hook up with the
local flight schools! If the rental rates are also cheaper a week or
two flying vacation with "discount flying and hotel" for the right and
left coasters might be a good idea.

Margy

On Nov 22, 10:50 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
I doubt these are the only reasons. The return on investment is what
ultimately matters and is perceived differently by different people
when it comes to investing $6000. Just as I don't have any
particularly strong interest in learning to rock climb, I can imagine
there are those who view flying with a similar apathy. In the end it
would be hard to make the case that the PPL has a greater practical
utility than say, learning to ride a horse. PPL flying is a niche
hobby, and its hard to imagine that would change anytime soon.

Hmmm. I've spent the last 13 years flying my family from coast to
coast, Canada to Mexico, on vacations ranging from overnight to two
weeks in duration. I've flown hundreds of times in support of my
business(es) during that time as well.

Leaving from Iowa City I can be in Chicago for brunch, St Louis for

Madoon, the boycott is broken, next thing he'll be here for Cubs
games.

dinner, and home by the 10 o'clock news. Do *that* on a horse!

Although personal flying will never be as rock-solid reliable as a
Greyhound bus (due primarily to my own budget and equipment
limitations), to say that the PPL has little practical value is
inaccurate.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Good for you if you are able to use GA to further your business but
one size does not fit all. In a free market system like in the US,
many businesses probably are not leaving money on the table just
because they are not using GA in their day to day operations like you
do. I am guessing that most businesses that can use GA profitably are
already doing so. Some use private jets to boost their businesses too,
but it does not mean that those who aren't using private jets for
business are making a mistake. If GA is indeed such a great idea and
opportunity for businesses then it means either people are doing a
lousy job marketing the benefits of GA, or that many people are being
fools to not use GA in their daily businesses. American business is
way too smart so I really doubt the latter and I am skeptical of the
former. If GA is dying even in a heavily subsidized environment like
the US (no landing fees, lots of free airports etc), then it probably
is because enough people do not see value in it.


Matt W. Barrow wrote:
We'll do $5.7 in business this DOWN year.

Wow. That'll buy about a gallon and a half of 100LL these days if you're
lucky. Congrats.

Make that $5.7M.

C'mon fingers!
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

If GA is dying even in a heavily subsidized environment like
the US (no landing fees, lots of free airports etc), then it probably
is because enough people do not see value in it.

Aside from business flying (which is booming, BTW), I think much of
GA's decline is directly related to the "wussification" of American
youth rather than any inherent lack of value.

Most American kids -- obese, sedentary, enamored with "Facebook" --
would rather sit in front of the Playstation than actually *do*
anything. Learning to fly takes discipline and a desire to work hard
-- two things that appear to be in short supply nowadays.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"