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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: You don't know the HALF of that statement :-) Putting up with the likes of me for 40 years and running, this woman deserves a permanent place in heaven. I do not doubt it! Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in : Crash Lander wrote: "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... If I should die while diving at least I didn't die in bed. Poignant words indeed. The last line makes for a fitting replacement for the ever clichéd "He died doing what he loved!", which always seems to rub people the wrong way for some reason. Screw them. Doesn't make the words false. I think it does... Well, maybe not false, but they don't ring true and they're zero consolation. I think all of us would prefer to spend a long life flying airplanes, riding motorcycles, having sex, and then die relatively quickly in bed. I know I would. |
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Jim Stewart wrote in
: Yeah, but I do find the "Died what he loved doing" just annoys me. As does the "these things happen for a reason" Right. Nobody says that when an 18-year old dies on his motorcycle. I wonder why they think it appropriate for a 50-60 year old. People do say that when an 18 YO dies on his motorcycle! I suppose people just don;t know what to say and so come up with the made for TV movie cliche that pops into their heads. Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Jim Stewart wrote in : Yeah, but I do find the "Died what he loved doing" just annoys me. As does the "these things happen for a reason" Right. Nobody says that when an 18-year old dies on his motorcycle. I wonder why they think it appropriate for a 50-60 year old. People do say that when an 18 YO dies on his motorcycle! I suppose people just don;t know what to say and so come up with the made for TV movie cliche that pops into their heads. Bertie God only knows I've seen enough death in my day to have seen this behavior in action, and I've indeed seen it happen many times. Mostly when I've witnessed it, its involved spectators at air show deaths. I really think most people are genuine when they use these cliche's, especially peope who love aviation and are present when these things happen. I have however seen exceptions to the rule. I in fact decked a guy out cold at the Cape May Race mess in 71. I think the average Joe out here just wants to express some sorrow when these things happen and the words are just not there. In most cases they realize they are not directly involved and as such really not in the protocol to say anything at all....but they feel they want to say something....anything, to express their feelings. So out it comes....some cliche that even as they say it they realize it doesn't fit or sound right. I don't know.....I've been in this business too long I guess. I think I do understand why it's done. I know I don't do it, and most of the people I know in aviation don't do it either. I guess in the end it's just a matter of personal perspective. I tend not to fault the people who do this for the above reasons unless I know for a fact that it's disingenuous which is rare. I've been known to let some people know the facts of life in no uncertain terms at times. My bad there, but then again, nobody's perfect :-)) -- Dudley Henriques |
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I am reminded of the story told of Bob Hope. When asked where he'd
like to be buried, he said "Surprise me." As for death? Take me when I wonderful plans for tomorrow, rather than when all I have are memories of yesterdays, or no memory at all. On Dec 6, 1:41 pm, Jim Stewart wrote: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in m: Crash Lander wrote: "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... If I should die while diving at least I didn't die in bed. Poignant words indeed. The last line makes for a fitting replacement for the ever clichéd "He died doing what he loved!", which always seems to rub people the wrong way for some reason. Screw them. Doesn't make the words false. I think it does... Well, maybe not false, but they don't ring true and they're zero consolation. I think all of us would prefer to spend a long life flying airplanes, riding motorcycles, having sex, and then die relatively quickly in bed. I know I would.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
news ![]() Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Jim Stewart wrote in : Yeah, but I do find the "Died what he loved doing" just annoys me. As does the "these things happen for a reason" Right. Nobody says that when an 18-year old dies on his motorcycle. I wonder why they think it appropriate for a 50-60 year old. People do say that when an 18 YO dies on his motorcycle! I suppose people just don;t know what to say and so come up with the made for TV movie cliche that pops into their heads. Bertie God only knows I've seen enough death in my day to have seen this behavior in action, and I've indeed seen it happen many times. Mostly when I've witnessed it, its involved spectators at air show deaths. I really think most people are genuine when they use these cliche's, especially peope who love aviation and are present when these things happen. I have however seen exceptions to the rule. I in fact decked a guy out cold at the Cape May Race mess in 71. I think the average Joe out here just wants to express some sorrow when these things happen and the words are just not there. In most cases they realize they are not directly involved and as such really not in the protocol to say anything at all....but they feel they want to say something....anything, to express their feelings. So out it comes....some cliche that even as they say it they realize it doesn't fit or sound right. I don't know.....I've been in this business too long I guess. I think I do understand why it's done. I know I don't do it, and most of the people I know in aviation don't do it either. I guess in the end it's just a matter of personal perspective. I tend not to fault the people who do this for the above reasons unless I know for a fact that it's disingenuous which is rare. I've been known to let some people know the facts of life in no uncertain terms at times. My bad there, but then again, nobody's perfect :-)) Oh I'd agree. it's not somethng you get a lot of practice for. Still don't want anyone to say "He died what he loved doing" though. For one thing, I like to do lots of stuff, so it doesn't narow it down much. Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news ![]() Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Jim Stewart wrote in : Yeah, but I do find the "Died what he loved doing" just annoys me. As does the "these things happen for a reason" Right. Nobody says that when an 18-year old dies on his motorcycle. I wonder why they think it appropriate for a 50-60 year old. People do say that when an 18 YO dies on his motorcycle! I suppose people just don;t know what to say and so come up with the made for TV movie cliche that pops into their heads. Bertie God only knows I've seen enough death in my day to have seen this behavior in action, and I've indeed seen it happen many times. Mostly when I've witnessed it, its involved spectators at air show deaths. I really think most people are genuine when they use these cliche's, especially peope who love aviation and are present when these things happen. I have however seen exceptions to the rule. I in fact decked a guy out cold at the Cape May Race mess in 71. I think the average Joe out here just wants to express some sorrow when these things happen and the words are just not there. In most cases they realize they are not directly involved and as such really not in the protocol to say anything at all....but they feel they want to say something....anything, to express their feelings. So out it comes....some cliche that even as they say it they realize it doesn't fit or sound right. I don't know.....I've been in this business too long I guess. I think I do understand why it's done. I know I don't do it, and most of the people I know in aviation don't do it either. I guess in the end it's just a matter of personal perspective. I tend not to fault the people who do this for the above reasons unless I know for a fact that it's disingenuous which is rare. I've been known to let some people know the facts of life in no uncertain terms at times. My bad there, but then again, nobody's perfect :-)) Oh I'd agree. it's not somethng you get a lot of practice for. Still don't want anyone to say "He died what he loved doing" though. For one thing, I like to do lots of stuff, so it doesn't narow it down much. Bertie You're right. It kind of takes on a new meaning when considering that some people "love" to swim with Great White Sharks. I actually watched some dumb ass yesterday on a film clip bury himself under some RR ties at a train station then let a train run over him as his buds watched and cheered him on. Unbelievable. The sad thing is that idiots like this aren't really proving how brave they are but how stupid they are. It's like putting your puss on international TV in front of the entire world and shouting at the top of your lungs, "HEY, look at ME!! I'M a f*****g idiot!!! :-))) -- Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
: It's like putting your puss on international TV in front of the entire world and shouting at the top of your lungs, "HEY, look at ME!! I'M a f*****g idiot!!! :-))) Like it? It's exactly what they're doing. I have to admit, an FO I was flying with recently had Jackass the movie on his laptop and I laughed like hell at it.. The bit where they put handlebars on a rocket al'a Wiley Coyote was just brilliant. Bertie |
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