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  #41  
Old March 11th 08, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Look at your engine operation chart in your POH and find the column that
has the highest MP and the lowest RPM.
For example.. the PA28-236 Dakota, O540-J3A5D
55% power, 5000 feet, 2100 RPM and 19.5"
65% power, 5000 feet, 2100 RPM and 21.9"
75% power, 5000 feet, 2200 RPM and 23.2"


Okay, I supposed I could do that, and dink around with it for a while -- but
why would I ruin a really nice flight recording my fuel flow at these
various settings?

:-)

Perhaps if I knew what you were trying to determine, it would help. What're
you looking for in this data?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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Old March 11th 08, 04:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

Perhaps if I knew what you were trying to determine, it would help.
What're you looking for in this data?


My guess is lower fuel flow, for the same airspeed.

As I recall, it is this type of over-square settings that Lindberg
pioneered, and using these settings allowed the P-38 to increase their range
significantly.
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Old March 12th 08, 02:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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As I recall, it is this type of over-square settings that Lindberg
pioneered, and using these settings allowed the P-38 to increase their
range significantly.


Gotcha.

I think I've solved the "high fuel burn" problem, though. Montblack,
myself, and two other guys are going to buy an old Ercoupe, and enjoy
puttering around the sky burning 5 gph whenever we don't need to haul around
1500 pounds of stuff...

:-)

It'll give Joe something he can sort of afford to fly, too.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 12th 08, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ray Andraka
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Jay Honeck wrote:
As I recall, it is this type of over-square settings that Lindberg
pioneered, and using these settings allowed the P-38 to increase their
range significantly.



Gotcha.

I think I've solved the "high fuel burn" problem, though. Montblack,
myself, and two other guys are going to buy an old Ercoupe, and enjoy
puttering around the sky burning 5 gph whenever we don't need to haul
around 1500 pounds of stuff...

:-)

It'll give Joe something he can sort of afford to fly, too.


I was thinking an Aeronca Chief myself.
  #45  
Old March 12th 08, 11:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Margy Natalie
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Ray Andraka wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

As I recall, it is this type of over-square settings that Lindberg
pioneered, and using these settings allowed the P-38 to increase
their range significantly.




Gotcha.

I think I've solved the "high fuel burn" problem, though. Montblack,
myself, and two other guys are going to buy an old Ercoupe, and enjoy
puttering around the sky burning 5 gph whenever we don't need to haul
around 1500 pounds of stuff...

:-)

It'll give Joe something he can sort of afford to fly, too.



I was thinking an Aeronca Chief myself.

Quicksilver on floats for me.

Margy
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Old March 13th 08, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

I think I've solved the "high fuel burn" problem, though. Montblack,
myself, and two other guys are going to buy an old Ercoupe, and enjoy
puttering around the sky burning 5 gph whenever we don't need to haul
around 1500 pounds of stuff...


Cool! I like Ercoupes. They got plenty of personality, and style, too.

Just think; putting along at less than 5 gph, with the windows rolled
down... zipping along at 1000 feet agl, smelling the corn growing, and the
cows farting... Oops, shoulda' left out that last part! g

Now, if you could get a amphibious pair of floats, you could drop in on a
lake and take a dip, too. That would be really stylin'! :-)
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Jim in NC


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Old March 15th 08, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Cool! I like Ercoupes. They got plenty of personality, and style, too.

Just think; putting along at less than 5 gph, with the windows rolled
down... zipping along at 1000 feet agl, smelling the corn growing, and the
cows farting... Oops, shoulda' left out that last part! g


I filled "The Grape" a few days ago, and it was over $200 -- for CAR gas.

Right then I realized that burning 12 - 24 gph (depending on phase of
flight) was stupid -- especially when all I really want to do is FLY. Most
of our flights I'm just buzzing to Iowa airports, dropping off hotel
promotional stuff, and having fun. Why in the world would I want to go
(relatively) fast, and haul 1500 pounds around all the time?

An Ercoupe, with a few partners (most of whom also have "traveling
machines") will cost less than a motorcycle, and offer a whole bunch 'o fun!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #48  
Old March 15th 08, 11:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article vbGCj.23049$TT4.17810@attbi_s22,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Right then I realized that burning 12 - 24 gph (depending on phase of
flight) was stupid -- especially when all I really want to do is FLY. Most
of our flights I'm just buzzing to Iowa airports, dropping off hotel
promotional stuff, and having fun. Why in the world would I want to go
(relatively) fast, and haul 1500 pounds around all the time?


What is the least fuel burn for Atlas? What is the fuel burn for 55% power?

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(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

  #49  
Old March 15th 08, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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What is the least fuel burn for Atlas? What is the fuel burn for 55%
power?


Oh, I know -- I can always pull the levers back and enjoy 7 gph...

But I can't hang my arm out the window in flight, or park in the antique
section at OSH, or fly into Antique Airfield in Blakesburg, or let my kid
fly it, or...

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 15th 08, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Margy Natalie
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Jay Honeck wrote:
What is the least fuel burn for Atlas? What is the fuel burn for 55%
power?



Oh, I know -- I can always pull the levers back and enjoy 7 gph...

But I can't hang my arm out the window in flight, or park in the antique
section at OSH,


I assume one of you will fly the Ercoupe and the other Atlas? I know
for a fact you bring way too many people and stuff for a 'coupe.

Margy
or fly into Antique Airfield in Blakesburg, or let my
kid fly it, or...

:-)

 




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