This is what the D-Day was for...

"Gunnar" wrote in message
...
The French "invented" air to air kills with the shoot down of a german on
the 8. october 1914. The french pilot was Sergant Frantz.

An accident no doubt.

"Shiver Me Timbers" wrote in message
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Must be tough to be ashamed of your heritage.

I wouldn't know.

They should after all be arrested... but in the real world this would
start
WWIII...

What a disturbingly warped view of the world.

This bizarre post casts a sliver of light on the mind-set that created (and
continues to create) the terrorists -- better than any deliberate
explanation ever could.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Il est vrai qu'en toute matière, la subtilité fait défaut à
l'anglo-saxon.
il est également vrai que dans n'importe quelle matière l'arrogance soit
toujours présente dans le Français

Subject: This is what the D-Day was for...
From: "madhon"
Date: 6/1/04 3:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

Il est vrai qu'en toute matière, la subtilité fait défaut à
l'anglo-saxon.
il est également vrai que dans n'importe quelle matière l'arrogance soit
toujours présente dans le Français


Vous avez raison.
Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

In article ,
Skysurfer wrote:

AES/newspost wrote :

The French would obviously have much preferred to keep on doing
lucrative business deals [1] with the, shall we say,
"pre-terrorist" state that Iraq was prior to our "ill-considered
efforts" [2].

[1] Lucrative for French businesses and French politicians, as I
think we now are aware.

"No more persuasive is the widely voiced (in the U.S.) argument that
the French were defending wide-reaching and profitable commercial
relationships with Saddam's regime. The truth is that France enjoyed
minor economic ties with Saddam. Under the United Nations'
now-defunct Oil for Food program with Saddam's Iraq, the French were
only the 13th-largest participant. The U.S. under that program
bought more than 50 percent of Iraq's total oil exports, the French
8 percent."


But the relevant question is not who _bought_ the oil, it's where (and
how) did the Iraqis _spend_ the proceeds from those purchases? And a
fair amount of info on that has come out since the occupation.

[Memorable quote from Christopher Hitchens as one of four participants
in a quite well done public debate at UCLA just days before Bush gave
the orders to go: "Saddam Hussein never failed to offer a bribe -- and
Jacques Chirac never failed to take one."]

And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay
home and let the vets have their day. Almost half a million won't be
here next year.

Dave Reinhart


Shiver Me Timbers wrote:

HECTOP wrote:

I know this is gonna start a riot, but...

Why would it start a riot.

Sad reflection perhaps, but prudent, logical, common sense
in todays political climate.

In a previous article, said:
And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay

Can you point me to a cite for that? I can't find it on any of the
reputable news sources - or even Fox.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"It's free they say, if you can get it to run, the geeks say `hey, that's half
the fun', but I've got a girlfriend and things to get done, the Linux OS sucks"
- Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie, "Every OS Sucks" http://www.deadtroll.com/

AES/newspost writes:

[2] "Ill-planned" or "ill-implemented" or "ill-carried-through" efforts
might be a more accurate description).

An "Ill-considered" plan cannot be made good by carrying it out well.
Thus Ill-considered is perfectly accurate, given Shrub's arrogant snub
of the UN inspections and the UN Security Council, his faith-based
attitude towards "intelligence" that supported his views, and so on
and so forth.

More bumper stickers:

Bush: Born on 3rd base, thought he hit a triple.

Clinton lied, nobody died.

"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.

Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands of
terrorists over the years

Amazing that people actually have such short memories. Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.

Pete