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"Ed" wrote in message ... Thanks Dudley. No surprise you agree. Most people in dangerous professions learn to think this way, or they become a statistic. Test pilot, fighter pilot, aerobatic pilot, soldier, police officer, fireman, mountain climber, stuntman, race car driver ... the same mentality is essential to success. Learn as much as you can, prepare as much as you can, and stack the odds in your favor so you reach the end in one piece. The old saying is wrong. There are plenty of old, bold pilots. But they are all old, bold, careful pilots. There are no old, bold, careless pilots. It has always amazed me about the "hero" tag people for some reason absolutely insist on associating with professionals who engage in dangerous work. The truth of it, as I'm sure you are well aware, is that the "heros" get killed off pretty quickly. It's the people who treat these jobs with the respect they deserve that live to do it again and again. Race driver Tom Sneva said it better than I ever could one day after he smacked the wall at Indy at 230 mph and walked away. A reporter stuck a mike in Tom's puss as he was walking in and asked him the wrong question :-) The reporter asked, "Boy...I bet you'd like to be able to try that corner again wouldn't you Tom?" Sneva just looked at the guy like he was nuts and said simply, "Yeah right! ......if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd ALL have a Merry Christmas!!!" In flying....it's knowing when to be bold and when not to be bold that adds up to the "old" part!! :-) Dudley |
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Yip, live fast die young. Better than sitting in bed at 70 with all
types of disease and cancer eating away at your internal organs. You can't hide from death, it will come to vist one day and unless you are religious and believe in the afterlife etc, it doesn't really matter if it is sooner or later, you will still end up dead! J. NW_PILOT wrote: "private" wrote in message news:hQ7ce.1148571$8l.556991@pd7tw1no... My apologies to the Usenet police cross posting but I am in mourning for friends lost, and in sympathy for the families they left alone. This week we have seen behavior that can only be described as reckless. A man posts video of a poorly performed roll in a non aerobatic aircraft without regard for ...............to say nothing about his instructor PARTICIPATING. Two survivors and a questionable aircraft CFIT A multiple champion pilot losses control while reaching for a $100 side bet. One fatal. 911?, fuel exhaustion, over water, without flotation, at night. One (probable) fatal. I am tempted to ask why? where are we failing? are we glorifying recklessness? Are we truly self destructive (cigarettes, food, alcohol, pollution etc)? what can we do? but I know that we must each find the answers within ourselves and to strive for the personal situational control to handle these situations and temptations. Training helps, as do mentors. (Thank you Dudley, Gene etal) I am sick of hearing "he died doing something he loved". It just sounds trite. They are always way too young. My condolences and sympathy to all mourning family and friends. Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Most of us that are in to flying or other extreme hobbies have a huge respect for life but also have that need for that adrenalin. I my-self wake up every day and am very thankful that I don't have to stick a needle in my arm or suck something up my nose to get that rush, I have many many other activity's like flying to get that feeling. You will Die one day that's a fact of Life!! You cannot hide from it! You cannot run from it! So embrace the Life you have been given and enjoy it with every breath you take because you may never know when it may be your last. |
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Justin Fielding wrote
Yip, live fast die young. Better than sitting in bed at 70 with all types of disease and cancer eating away at your internal organs. RIGHT !!! I have now reached that age (70), but spend no more time in bed than you do and probably spend a lot more time at the airport or in an airplane than you do. Still a practicing flight instructor with over 20,000 hours of flying behind me and looking forward to lots more. I was on the receiving end of a Flight Review just last week and the other instructor was 76 years old. We had a great time in the 47 year old Cessna 172. Bob Moore ATP B-727 B-707 L-188 CFI CFII Naval Aviator S-2A P-2V P-3B 1958-1967 Pan American Airways 1967-1991 (retired) |
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Justin Fielding wrote:
Yip, live fast die young. Better than sitting in bed at 70 with all types of disease and cancer eating away at your internal organs. You can't hide from death, it will come to vist one day and unless you are religious and believe in the afterlife etc, it doesn't really matter if it is sooner or later, you will still end up dead! Justin, Can I take out some life insurance on you? |
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What I have belatedly discovered is that flying time is NOT
deducted from your life span. At 81. I expect to pass 11,000 hours this year. I got a late start and like every other pilot regret that I did not start flying sooner. Gene Whitt |
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"Bob Moore" wrote in message . 121... Justin Fielding wrote Yip, live fast die young. Better than sitting in bed at 70 with all types of disease and cancer eating away at your internal organs. RIGHT !!! I have now reached that age (70), but spend no more time in bed than you do and probably spend a lot more time at the airport or in an airplane than you do. Still a practicing flight instructor with over 20,000 hours of flying behind me and looking forward to lots more. I was on the receiving end of a Flight Review just last week and the other instructor was 76 years old. We had a great time in the 47 year old Cessna 172. Bob Moore ATP B-727 B-707 L-188 CFI CFII Naval Aviator S-2A P-2V P-3B 1958-1967 Pan American Airways 1967-1991 (retired) Yep. Getting there myself. The last CFI I was up with was 87 and he was getting a checkout in the airplane from ME! :-) Highflyer |
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Golly, what a bunch of OLD FARTS. I just ticked 61 and am looking forward
to all the stuff you all are talking about when I hit 70 (Are Depends anywhere in the mix? Just wondering...) {;-) Jim |
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LMAO,
Now that was funny!!! Patrick student SPL aircraft structural mech "RST Engineering" wrote in message ... Golly, what a bunch of OLD FARTS. I just ticked 61 and am looking forward to all the stuff you all are talking about when I hit 70 (Are Depends anywhere in the mix? Just wondering...) {;-) Jim |
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Bob Moore wrote:
I have now reached that age (70), but spend no more time in bed than you do and probably spend a lot more time at the airport or in an airplane than you do. You mean I *don't* get to sleep my life away when I get that old? Dammit, I was sorta looking forward to catching up on my sleep. :-) George Patterson There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes. |
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There's no reason why living every day as your last precludes living every
day with the discipline to do everything in a way that best ensures that you live another day. Who would want their last day to be marked by sloppiness, lack of skill or poor judgement? Marcus Aurelius spoke at length on this topic ca. 200 AD. "Ed H" wrote in message ... "NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... No it is my concept of life. Plain in simple lifeis short! You never know how long you have. So live it like every day is your last. I'm a career Special Forces officer. I've made my living with and around firearms, explosives, parachutes, and other risky things. Not to mention roaming around places like Iraq trying not to get shot or blown up. Two of my favorite off-duty pursuits are aerobatic flying and mountaineering. So I'm fairly well acquianted with risk. Here's the thing: it's not about taking stupid chances in search of an adrenaline rush. It's about controlling your environment, mastering the challenges set before you. That means gathering information, knowing all the risks, having the right skills, and taking appropriate measures to ensure the outcome is positive. Every time. If you live like every day is your last, then it will become a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's a BS attitude. Your mentality should be "I may die, but it ain't gonna be today." Live to fly (or climb, or jump, or fight) another day. I don't know Bob Hoover, but I'm willing to bet that his attitude is closer to mine than to yours. I've known guys with your attitude. Some of them grew out of it. The others are dead. I don't blame you for the roll. I blame your CFI. You, as a student, cannot be criticized for trusting your CFI to advise you. I probably would have done the same thing 10 years ago, when I didn't know better. Your CFI should lose his instructor status, if not his flight privs. But that highlights the big danger in these kind of endeavors. You do the right thing by seeking help from an experienced person, but what if that person turns out to be an idiot? All I can say is be careful who you trust, seek second opinions, and look for appropriate certifications. One of the saddest things about the NTSB accident reports are all the stories of friends and family members killed by jackass pilots doing stupid things. |
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