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![]() "Wdtabor" wrote in message ... You make several good points, Roger -- but I didn't seen any viable alternatives in your post. If we aren't to fight back, for fear of creating more terrorists, what are we to do? To get an idea of what we're up against, i suggest reading the following link: http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0407020030.asp The problem is hugely more complicated that that. If you want to read something that is actually helful to this debate, try: http://www.nupi.no/IPS/filestore/Root_Causes_report.pdf This is a report from an international Conference on terrorisim in June 2003 in Oslo, and included American and Israeli particpants, among others. You need to read the whole thing, but the finding on "religion" as a basis of terrorism as quoted from the report: "Suicide terrorism is not caused by religion (or more specifically Islam) as such.... Many suicide terrorists around the world are secular, or belong to other religions than Islam. Suicide terrorists are motivated mainly by political goals – usually to end foreign occupation or domestic domination by a different ethnic group. Their “martyrdom” is, however, frequently legitimised and glorified with reference to religious ideas and values." |
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In article le.rogers.com,
"Icebound" writes: http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0407020030.asp The problem is hugely more complicated that that. If you want to read something that is actually helful to this debate, try: http://www.nupi.no/IPS/filestore/Root_Causes_report.pdf This is a report from an international Conference on terrorisim in June 2003 in Oslo, and included American and Israeli particpants, among others. You need to read the whole thing, but the finding on "religion" as a basis of terrorism as quoted from the report: I read it. It is just the usual apologist, 'it has to be someone else's fault' claptrap. It can be reasonably argued that Islam, in and of itself, is not the cause of terrorism, but the religion is uniquely succeptable to being siezed upon by facist ideologues and used as the unifying identity that a fascist expansion requires. Muslim holy literature, particularly Sura 9:29, preaches a superiority, and worse, an entitlement, attached to believers. The Koran itself authorizes conversion by the sword for pagans and idolators and demands tribute from 'people of the book' (Christians and Jews) for living at peace within Muslim spheres of influence. Add to that the lack of a Muslim 'Pope' to settle religious questions, and any fascist ideologue can waive the Koran and call for Jihad against some presumed infidel offense and there is no one to state absolutley that he is wrong. Look around the world and point to a single place where a Muslim theocracy lives at peace with a weaker non-Muslim neighbor. You can't, there isn't one. The UN tracks over 130 trouble spots where recurring political violence is a problem. 6 do not involve Muslims. Are those all cases of discrimination against Muslims? Are the Phillipines subject to terrorism because they somehow interferred in Palestine? The West in general, and the US in particular, tends to introspection, and looks inward for the source of all wrong. We always ask "What did we do wrong to deserve their hatred?" Muslims never ask that question. In any dispute, they are right BECAUSE they have submitted to the will of Allah and we are wrong because we have not. Understand that one thing and you can understand our enemy. -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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