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On Aug 17, 8:10*pm, Mike Schumann
wrote: When you get a PCAS alarm, the aircraft could easily be coming from behind you or another blind spot. *Or you could have two aircraft at the same range coming from opposite directions. *All PCAS (and PowerFLARM) gives you is an alert to start looking. *It doesn't come close to giving you all the information you need to avoid disaster in certain situations. A classic example of this was a couple of years ago when I was flying a K-8 south of Mpls. *Earlier in the day, we saw a couple of C-130s heading south. *About an hour later, I heard them coming up behind me (low tech audio PCAS+). *What do I do? *If they saw me and were avoiding me, a sudden turn could put me in their path. With ADS-B, I could have seen exactly where they were and reacted accordingly. *With PCAS, I wouldn't be any better off than with my basic hearing. -- Mike Schumann- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I still have to disagree. Using your example, with PCAS you would have been warned well prior to hearing the C-130s. If the warning continued to show decreasing range, and possible altitude conflict, and you could not see the threat aircraft in front, then a turn to check 6 would put you in a position to see them (hard to miss two Herks). As far as the concern that a turn will put you in their path, think of the relative speeds and distances involved. Unless the other plane is right on top of you, your turn is not going to move you in space very much, but on the other hand may make you visible to the other plane and allow normal rules of the road to apply. Mike, I don't disagree that ADS-B, when fully implemented, will be a wonderful thing - for GA. I've been using the military version (JTIDS) for years and love it, but unless the hardware requirements come down to something reasonable it will take a while to get into gliders. Flarm, OTOH, is here now, and solves some nasty, glider specific problems (which ADS-B will probably never do, given the market). Unlike you, I am comfortable with the level of warning that PCAS gives me for transponder - equipped threats (especially VFR traffic that won't see your transponder or be talking to Center). I also am comfortable staying away from airliners - but I'm not flying near Minden/Reno. Around Phoenix, I know pretty well where the heavies are and scan accordingly. I also think the nature of glider flight makes the chance of a midair with another glider much higher than that of getting hit by an airliner or GA plane. My experience in 2500 hours of gliding, all over the US, supports that view. Kirk |
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On Aug 17, 6:56*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
... In a PowerFLARM environment with lots of gliders also with transponders what you want to do is correlate the Flarm ID of a glider with it's transponder signal (and also extend that to ADS-B as well) and suppress the PCAS warning for that glider. This in principle is be easy to do for Mode S. You just have have the Flarm transmitter also transmit the aircraft's Mode S ICAO ID). With Mode C you are pretty much out of luck. The Flarm box is only going to be able to guess at best. And there is the trade off between suppression a duplicate alert and suppressing a real alert. It is so insurmountable that personally I'd not bother trying if I was developing the box. And to be clear, I have no idea what Flarm does inside their PCAS system in PowerFLARM. Sorry I missed this earlier, to amplify one of Darryl's points... You can set the aircraft ICAO ID in the FLARM config file, in which case this is used instead of the distinct FLARM unit ID. Hope that helps, Best Regards, Dave |
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