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  #51  
Old July 10th 04, 01:42 AM
vincent p. norris
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I don't know if it's urban legend or not but I heard of a pilot who crashed
in the Rockies. He survived the crash but was pinned in the wreckage. A
nice family of bears came along and ate him.


If the bears ate him, how do we know he survived the crash?

Kinda like that ridiculous tale Ronald Reagan told about the shot-up
bomber whose belly gunner couldn't get out. So after all the other
crew had bailed out, the pilot went back, took the belly gunner's
hand, and said, "That's OK, son, we'll ride this one out together."

vince norris
  #52  
Old July 10th 04, 02:27 AM
Clay
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I also carry a hand held radio with an extra battery pack.

Matt Young wrote in message hlink.net...
And remember you don't have to outrun it, you only have to outrun your
friend.



Bob Chilcoat wrote:

If you hear something big moving out there, turn on your flashlight. If you
don't like what you see, turn it off again.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 16:28:28 GMT, EDR wrote:


5. Flashlight with good batteries (extras & bulb)

A wise hiker once pointed out that there is nothing worth seeing in
the New Hampshire mountains at night--and if there is, you're better
off not seeing it.

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  #53  
Old July 11th 04, 01:46 AM
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:

If you hear something big moving out there, turn on your flashlight. If you
don't like what you see, turn it off again.


Tape the flashlight to a 12 gauge loaded with 00 buck.

George Patterson
In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony assault.
In Tennessee, it's evangelism.
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Old July 12th 04, 02:05 PM
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I dunno. Maybe he scribbled a note to his wife or something.

If you're going to perpetuate an urban myth you have to think out side the
box.

BillC


"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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I don't know if it's urban legend or not but I heard of a pilot who

crashed
in the Rockies. He survived the crash but was pinned in the wreckage. A
nice family of bears came along and ate him.


If the bears ate him, how do we know he survived the crash?

vince norris



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Old July 12th 04, 10:16 PM
Kathy
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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Or a CD. An Oregon sheriff on search and rescue showed a group of us that
trick. He used an AOL advertising CD with the sides shaved off to make it
conveniently small (though still bigger than the usual signal mirror.)

Easy
to use, free, and much lighter than the double-glass ones usually sold

for
the purpose.


Good idea, but you need to include the hole, or make a hole, and learn
how to use that hole to aim the "flash" where you need it.

vince norris


He had a neat trick that didn't require the hole (though the CD had one.)
He held the CD in his right hand and shifted it around to aim the bright
reflection onto his left palm. He held his left thumb out to make a V of
thumb and forefinger. He moved his left hand - keeping the sunspot on his
palm by shifting the CD - until the plane was framed in the V. Then he eased
the sunspot up from his palm into the V and at the plane. The process seemed
much easier to do and remember than the mirror-and-hole business.

My husband tried it on me once. Although I wasn't expecting it - he hadn't
mentioned that he planned to signal - the very bright flash from the CD
immediately caught my attention. The repeated flickers made it very clear
that I was being signalled intentionally.

Kathy


  #56  
Old July 13th 04, 11:47 AM
Paul Sengupta
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Outside the aluminium wrapper?

Paul

"BillC85" wrote in message
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I dunno. Maybe he scribbled a note to his wife or something.

If you're going to perpetuate an urban myth you have to think out side the
box.

BillC


"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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I don't know if it's urban legend or not but I heard of a pilot who

crashed
in the Rockies. He survived the crash but was pinned in the wreckage.

A
nice family of bears came along and ate him.


If the bears ate him, how do we know he survived the crash?

vince norris





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Old July 14th 04, 04:44 AM
Brian Burger
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Greg Copeland wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:02:40 -0700, Bob Gardner wrote:

I hope you got a rescue whistle, not a "police" whistle with a pea. Rescue
whistles can be heard for half a mile and are available at suppliers of
outdoor equipment.


Good to know. I didn't realize there was a distinction.


Lots of good information on whistles he
http://www.equipped.org/soundoff.htm

Any outdoor store and many hardware stores should have these; they're $2-5
a piece, and well worth it.

Brian.
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Old July 14th 04, 07:56 PM
Rick Durden
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Gary,

For a serious discussion on what to carry when you are flying, go to
the website dedicated to evaluationg survival equipment for pilots:
www.equipped.org It is part of a nonprofit called Equipped To Survive
and is run by the aviation survival guru Doug Ritter.

There is finally an excellent pocket survival kit that includes a
signaling mirror and whistle designed for volume and distance that has
been put together by Ritter (his research indicates that if the
survival equipment isn't physically on your person you probably won't
be able to find it after an accident). The pocket survival kit is
available through www.aeromedix.com which also has a medical kit that
I carry in the airplane.

It's worth going to equipped.org if only to read the detailed reviews
on survival knives and the stuff to avoid because they don't work,
break or cannot be opened with one hand. Also, take a look at the
information on ditching. It punctures some of the myths on the
subject.

All the best,
Rick

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message news:hLwGc.16623$JR4.7695@attbi_s54...
A pilot crashed on a NH mountain in fog yesterday. He survived, but his
17-year-old son did not. Rescuers were able to find him in part because he
was blowing a whistle. I just added one to my flight bag.
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?J3AA12BB8)

--Gary

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Old July 14th 04, 08:14 PM
Gary Drescher
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"Rick Durden" wrote in message
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Gary,

For a serious discussion on what to carry when you are flying, go to
the website dedicated to evaluationg survival equipment for pilots:
www.equipped.org It is part of a nonprofit called Equipped To Survive
and is run by the aviation survival guru Doug Ritter.

There is finally an excellent pocket survival kit that includes a
signaling mirror and whistle designed for volume and distance that has
been put together by Ritter (his research indicates that if the
survival equipment isn't physically on your person you probably won't
be able to find it after an accident). The pocket survival kit is
available through www.aeromedix.com which also has a medical kit that
I carry in the airplane.

It's worth going to equipped.org if only to read the detailed reviews
on survival knives and the stuff to avoid because they don't work,
break or cannot be opened with one hand. Also, take a look at the
information on ditching. It punctures some of the myths on the
subject.


Thanks, I'll have a look! I've already got some of the basics (rescue
whistle, compass, mirror, foil blankets) but I'm undecided about the
cost-benefit tradeoff for more expensive items.

A question for anyone here who carries a survival kit when you fly: have you
ever needed to use it?

--Gary


All the best,
Rick

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message

news:hLwGc.16623$JR4.7695@attbi_s54...
A pilot crashed on a NH mountain in fog yesterday. He survived, but his
17-year-old son did not. Rescuers were able to find him in part because

he
was blowing a whistle. I just added one to my flight bag.
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?J3AA12BB8)

--Gary



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Old July 15th 04, 02:42 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Gary Drescher wrote:

A question for anyone here who carries a survival kit when you fly: have you
ever needed to use it?


I have never needed the kit for an emergency situation, but I have used pieces of it
(matches, line, ponchos, etc.) at flyins when I discovered that I left certain items
of camping gear behind.

George Patterson
In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony assault.
In Tennessee, it's evangelism.
 




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