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I flew real simulators. And I have flown the crap they make for computers.And anything that you can do on a computer isn't even close. If you want to fly your computer for fun ok,bur remember it is just a toy. but don't confuse it with real flying or flying a real simulator. I guess you have never flown Air Force simulators. If you had you wouldn't be talking such patent nonsense. Now be a good guy and just go away. My God, I really cannot believe how much of a git you are. Get back on your Lithium and stay away from the keyboard until your therapist clears you to use it again. Van. |
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"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message ... I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles is the best WWII sim on the market IMHO. For modern, well for fun I would have to say Jane's USAF, for realism, honestly I cannot say as most of the ones I have played seem to come up a bit short, but Jane's F-15, IAF and Longbow were good in their day. |
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The big problem PC 'pilots' will run into if they have really gotten
into 'flying' the PC is that when they get into a real airplane to learn to fly the instructor will be concentrating on teaching them how to control the aircraft by looking !outside! at the real world and not concentrating on the gauges. 'IFR/IMC' flying comes into play much later - first you have to learn to land the airplane and that is done looking outside! Also since most of your initial flying will be done in the vicinity of the airport it's a damn good idea to watch out for other aircraft - 'blue on blue' the hard way is generally not survivable. That said, I reiterate that you can keep your instrument scan/crosscheck up to snuff using a decent PC program more conveniently and a lot cheaper than renting an aircraft or decent instrument trainer (AST300 or similar.) Walt BJ |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Voltigeur" Date: 11/17/03 12:09 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: UW9ub.8931$vi5.4042@okepread04 I flew real simulators. And I have flown the crap they make for computers.And anything that you can do on a computer isn't even close. If you want to fly your computer for fun ok,bur remember it is just a toy. but don't confuse it with real flying or flying a real simulator. I guess you have never flown Air Force simulators. If you had you wouldn't be talking such patent nonsense. Now be a good guy and just go away. My God, I really cannot believe how much of a git you are. Get back on your Lithium and stay away from the keyboard until your therapist clears you to use it again. Van. PLONK Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Simon Robbins" Date: 11/17/03 10:35 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: To answer the original poster's question: FS 2004 is a fantastically detailed product for civilian flight, and Falcon 4 has yet to be beaten for sheer wealth of features and attention to detail in the military games market. But they are, in the end, entertainment products. Si Exactly. I think that is what I pointed out in my original reply. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"Jim Baker" wrote in message t... "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: PC flight simulators From: "Jim Baker" Date: 11/16/03 8:14 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: fter reading that initial post, look at your nonsensical, standing on a soapbox, idiotic post above. Jim Sims Flown: Link, T-38, B-52, B-1B and B-727, Former Instructor Pilot in the T-38,B-52, B-1B aircraft and simulator. AND, I play with the Microsoft Flight Sim sometimes just for the hell of it. PLONK ! Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer Seriously Art, get some help. I'm not one of the guys who baits you, harasses you or gets into verbal fights with you. However, with great sincerity and no animosity whatever, based on this thread, I think you're having some kind of breakdown. Art is a good guy, Baker and unlike yourself has not misreprestnted his airplane. (ie Bone) Now bugger off. |
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message ... On 16 Nov 2003 18:51:41 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote: snip When I was at the F-18 RAG/FRS, they had three simulators, of three entirely different levels of sophistication. The simplest one was really just for practicing switchology on. The most realistic one had a real cockpit and dome, with incredibly good CGI and the ability to link with the other dome sim to fly in a two-man in a common scenario. The third was about halfway between these two. All of which run with large errors to the actual aircraft. A lack of simulator accuracy often leads to the flight test operator flying through the requested parameter, while having had the same manouver produce correct results. John P. Tarver, MS/PE |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: PC flight simulators From: Ed Rasimus Date: 11/17/03 7:35 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I understand. But you are hardly talking about Flight Simulator on a home computer are you? Sounds like what youy are decribing is way out if the reach of anyone with a home setup..You are also talking about a highly specialised dedicated setup to solve very specific puposes. Not the sort of stuff readily available at Best Buy is it? No Art, what Ed is describing is that the state of the art for military simulators was highly deficient in accuracy, at the time of the YF-23. What mary described is true, but also showed a basic ignorance of the limitations of the high dollar military simulator. The cocktail aviation crowd has been out of touch, since the industry sobered up in the 1990s. |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 11/17/03 1:08 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: PC flight simulators From: Ed Rasimus Date: 11/17/03 7:35 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I understand. But you are hardly talking about Flight Simulator on a home computer are you? Sounds like what youy are decribing is way out if the reach of anyone with a home setup..You are also talking about a highly specialised dedicated setup to solve very specific puposes. Not the sort of stuff readily available at Best Buy is it? No Art, what Ed is describing is that the state of the art for military simulators was highly deficient in accuracy, at the time of the YF-23. What mary described is true, but also showed a basic ignorance of the limitations of the high dollar military simulator. The cocktail aviation crowd has been out of touch, since the industry sobered up in the 1990s. (HIC) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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