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Old February 9th 04, 04:09 AM
Paul Folbrecht
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Yeah, the winds worked against me both ways. A bit annoying. I am
totally going to write a complaint letter to the NWS.

So was this one of your XCs? Dual?


Chris Hoffmann wrote:

You ain't kidding about the winds. They were from 250 when I was planning at
around 3 o'clock - by 3:30 they'd spun round to 200. Statrted double
checking my planning when it was obvious we were heading northwest instead
of northeast. 138 kts out - 78 kts back. Ouch.

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Old February 9th 04, 06:59 AM
Chris Hoffmann
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This was sort of a "refresher" - I did both duals back in October, so we're
just catching up a bit before I take the phase check. Planned out a flight
to Manitowoc, but we didn't go much past West Bend. With the low ceilings
and winds, I was just fine with that.
Heh, SVFR practice? Not quite...


"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
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Yeah, the winds worked against me both ways. A bit annoying. I am
totally going to write a complaint letter to the NWS.

So was this one of your XCs? Dual?


Chris Hoffmann wrote:

You ain't kidding about the winds. They were from 250 when I was

planning at
around 3 o'clock - by 3:30 they'd spun round to 200. Statrted double
checking my planning when it was obvious we were heading northwest

instead
of northeast. 138 kts out - 78 kts back. Ouch.



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Old February 9th 04, 11:02 AM
Abafon Goula
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 02:17:20 GMT, Paul Folbrecht
wrote:

8. Unless you fly regularly (200 hours a year) you'll never
cost-justify the purchase vs. renting, so take that out of the
equation.


Your advice is being considered, sir. As to your last point- I'm a bit
curious about that as I normally see a lower number brandied about as
the break-even.


All those hidden pop-up things that can't be put down on paper. And
don't think for one minute you'll be satisfied once you own it.
You'll want to make it the best damn airplane in the GA fleet!

And don't stick a fork in the toaster.

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Old February 9th 04, 12:50 PM
Jay Honeck
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You ain't kidding about the winds. They were from 250 when I was planning
at
around 3 o'clock - by 3:30 they'd spun round to 200. Statrted double
checking my planning when it was obvious we were heading northwest instead
of northeast. 138 kts out - 78 kts back. Ouch.


We flew back from WI yesterday. Winds aloft 230 at 55.

Ground speed on the GPS: 88 knots.

Our plane normally does 140 knots.

It was a loooong flight... :-(
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Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old February 9th 04, 01:56 PM
Jim
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If you're interested in 150's, send me an email. I've got a two pretty good
leads here in Central Wis.
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Old February 9th 04, 01:56 PM
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"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
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Bob.. did I by any chance chat w/you at the EAA museum a couple months

ago??


Nope I wasn't there.

Bob


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Old February 9th 04, 04:05 PM
Nathan Young
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 02:10:04 GMT, Paul Folbrecht
wrote:

Well, a new 235 is about $20K, and I'd thought a major overhaul was
about half that, but apparantly I was wrong given the number of people
in this thread who're telling me I am.

Jeff wrote:

sounds like that engine is about due a overhaul.
I dont know what an engine costs for a 152, but you may want to check on
that so you know about how much your going to have to invest in the new
engine.


Factoryengines.com lists O-235s for 15.2k, 17.9k, and 22.5k (overhaul,
remanufactured, and new respectively). Plus, you will have install
costs and have accessories to overhaul or replace. You could hit $20k
easily for an installed overhauled engine.

-Nathan

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Old February 9th 04, 06:00 PM
Jim Weir
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If fuel economy is your goal, then let me do some math for you.

Let's presume you want to put, oh, say 500 hours on this rascal before you trade
up. Let's also presume you go at 6 gallons/hour. This means that in 500 hours
you will burn about 3000 gallons of fuel.

In a 150, you can burn autogas at $1.50 a gallon for a total cost of $4500.

In a 152 you have to burn 100(LL) at $2.50 a gallon for a total cost of $7500.

Factor the extra $3 grand into your equation.

Jim


Paul Folbrecht
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

I had actually been drawn to
-150s/152s because of the fuel economy

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
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Old February 9th 04, 06:08 PM
Jim Weir
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About To Be New Plane Owner:

HEAR THIS. HEAR THIS if I have to repeat it ten thousand times. You can
legally DO ANYTHING yourself. **ANYTHING**. You just can't sign it off. If
you can find a mechanic willing to oversee your work, you can do ANYTHING.

Got it?

Jim


Paul Folbrecht
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


-
-$250 for an oil change?! Now, that's something I can legally do myself-
-why on earth would I pay that for it.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
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Old February 9th 04, 06:13 PM
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Jim Weir wrote:

In a 152 you have to burn 100(LL) at $2.50 a gallon for a total cost of $7500.


Or you can get an auto gas STC from either Petersen or the EAA. The EAA page notes
that modifications to the engine are required; even so, it's going to be cheaper
than running avgas.

George Patterson
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either by marriage or by removal of the afflicted from the circumstances
under which he incurred the condition. It is sometimes fatal, but more
often to the physician than to the patient.
 




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