In his own words - BWB and the OMABP

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Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightni
ng? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay o
n the
ground.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)


Does anybody know of a tube and rag plane getting hit by lightning?
What were the results?

Or, at least, remember that when you see lightening bolts,
it's time to head home to Mama...



A good idea no matter what kind of small plane you are flying!


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

"RobertR237" wrote in message Wow, in the total scheme of things, how
many planes are hit by lightning? If you are that leary of flying and
lightning, I would suggest you stay on the ground.

Turning a propeller near the freezing level is a sure way to get struck. I
took 3 hits in one year (that I know of). For two of them, I wasn't even in
the clouds. I was deviating around CBs. One hit knocked both generators
off-line. They re-set fine, so it only cost $5000 for a gearbox teardown and
inspection. One hit to another crew put a dime sized hole in one prop blade.
They weren't in the clouds and didn't know they had been struck until the
post-flight walk-around. That cost $27k because you can't replace just one
blade.

The aerodynamics of some of the fast glass planes give me a raging hard-on.
However, I can't bring myself to build one because of the lightning issue.
Talking to the kit manufacturers at Sun-n-Fun hasn't brought satisfaction to
my angst (basically, the salesmen don't know squat about the issue).

I wonder how the helicopter manufacturers protect their composite blades
from being damaged by lightning? (Painful image developing)

D.

On 6 Jul 2004 20:34:12 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

It's got to be because you are a MONK! ;--]

BWB

(bryan chaisone) wrote in message . com...
Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone



Hey Bry,

Yeah, and I over-lectured again, sorry about that. It was meant for
the group as a whole, not really you. You were right though, to get
****ed at BWB for forgetting who you are. What an old fart! This
means he buys the beer at the next hangar party (again.) ;-)

pac

(Badwater Bill) wrote

BBWWAWAAHHHAHHAHAAAAA

Pac, you crack me up. Only another brother with a lot of flying-time
can see through the bull ****. Isn't it interesting how clear all
this is to us, but how few will understand anything you had to say
above. And Bourbon? Hell, he sees all this too. He's been yanking a
stick since we were ****ting in our diapers. It's infinitely clear to
him too even though he's a cranky old **** and he ****es me off most
of the time too.

In Bryan's case, he'll understand your message. But, most won't. He's
done quit a bit that's transparent to the ng. He's one of us, he's
just a younger version, so he puts his head on a chopping block so we
can pick on him. Also, he's oriental, and as you know since you are
married to an oriental, they have manners far beyond anything that we
will ever have six lifetimes from now. I think most of what Bryan is
saying is related to his Asian culture of being mannerly. He came
from a culture where if you weren't mannerly they simply cut your head
off.

Have a nice day.

BWB

Wow, I had a couple of scotches last night and it looks like I turned
into a wind tunnel. Just got this "Dish" system installed in my shop
and house and was rocking out to their Sirius digital music. A man
could build an airplane listening to that great range of music.

Yeah, I'm guessing Bryan's a good pilot. Maybe you could teach him
how to be an instructor in helos and he could teach you a little Zen
"chilling out" type stuff! BWAHAHAHAHAHA Naw, that wouldn't work.
You'd keep buzzing through the Buddhist temple at low altitudes in
your chopper like in that movie "Air America" and make all the monks
crack up and start blowing their vows of silence and meditation. ;-)

We have a couple of guys who have retired in Cambodia. They say that
for a hundred bucks you can go out to a secret spot and fire a
bona fide grenade launcher, burning down a few acres of jungle. They
say it is ****ing incredible. The deal is you can't talk about it,
since the gov there has promised that kind of thing won't go on any
more, in accordance with new anti-terrorism agreements.

Hahahahahaha. Hey big brother, I just made that part up. Man, I'm
such a good fiction writer.

pac

"RobertR237" wrote in message Wow, in the total scheme of things, how
many planes are hit by lightning? If you are that leary of flying and
lightning, I would suggest you stay on the ground.

Turning a propeller near the freezing level is a sure way to get struck. I
took 3 hits in one year (that I know of). For two of them, I wasn't even in
the clouds. I was deviating around CBs. One hit knocked both generators
off-line. They re-set fine, so it only cost $5000 for a gearbox teardown and
inspection. One hit to another crew put a dime sized hole in one prop blade.
They weren't in the clouds and didn't know they had been struck until the
post-flight walk-around. That cost $27k because you can't replace just one
blade.

The aerodynamics of some of the fast glass planes give me a raging hard-on.
However, I can't bring myself to build one because of the lightning issue.
Talking to the kit manufacturers at Sun-n-Fun hasn't brought satisfaction to
my angst (basically, the salesmen don't know squat about the issue).

I wonder how the helicopter manufacturers protect their composite blades
from being damaged by lightning? (Painful image developing)

D.

There are a whole lot of glass planes out there flying every day, both
production and experimental. The reported strikes have been very few. I
suspect that the odds of getting killed driving to the airport are far greater
than being killed because of a lightning strike in a glass plane.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

(pacplyer) wrote in message
Yeah, I'm guessing Bryan's a good pilot. Maybe you could teach him
how to be an instructor in helos and he could teach you a little Zen
"chilling out" type stuff! BWAHAHAHAHAHA Naw, that wouldn't work.
You'd keep buzzing through the Buddhist temple at low altitudes in
your chopper like in that movie "Air America" and make all the monks
crack up and start blowing their vows of silence and meditation. ;-)


Check out Jay's post Downright Scary... on rec.aviation.piloting.

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...ation.piloting

I hope that guy will "Live and Learn".

We have a couple of guys who have retired in Cambodia. They say that
for a hundred bucks you can go out to a secret spot and fire a
bona fide grenade launcher, burning down a few acres of jungle. They
say it is ****ing incredible.

I can arrange that in Thailand, Cambodia or Laos. I'll even be the
guide, a translator that you could actually understand. Or, you can
just come by one weekend and I'll take you shooting here near my house
in Virginia or on my property in WV.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Let's not get the wrong idea about the PASSION part. ;^)

You said, I'm getting old and feeble minded.

Sorry again about that.

Hell, I even have long periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's
really getting old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about
sex at all.

Wow twelve minutes! I'd seek profession help if I went that long
without a thought of that.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

That's a deal. Next time I'm in Vegas I'd like to come by and help
you with it for a minute or two. If that's alright.

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250!

Wow, my trike only has has 22hp (claimed), a world of difference from
yours. Well, one of these days... Anyways, it's got a Zenoah G25 and
a laminated wood prop that I bought both new from Tenn-Prop. I also
op'd for an electric starter. You're welcome to fly it when I'm done
with it. Heck, you can be the first test pilot on it. Better you
than me, LOL. I know you'll put it through its paces. If it survives
you, I know I'll be safe in it. BTW I have a chest chute that it on
the hangglider harness. I heard that regular skydiving chutes need to
be repacked every 90 days (or is it within 90 days prior to use). Is
that true for emergency chutes as well? I've had this thing for about
seven years now, still have not been opened (Thank God).

I just hope I don't die of old age before I finish it and fly it. But,
considering that the thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I
mean after two weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

You just might get yours of the ground before my trike. I'm such a
procrastinator.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

"RobertR237" wrote in message There are a whole lot of glass planes out
there flying every day, both
production and experimental. The reported strikes have been very few. I
suspect that the odds of getting killed driving to the airport are far
greater
than being killed because of a lightning strike in a glass plane.

True- but I haven't been able to find out any meaningful data about how the
electrical charges are kept from causing structural damage. None of the
salesmen I queried has a clue. Some of the certified models have a full
instrument panel but aren't certified for IFR flight, ostensibly because of
this issue. Until I do find some meaningful data, I have to go on the theory
that I will again be struck by lightning. I don't want to end up like those
glider pilots in the UK, especially since they had chutes and I don't).

D.