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"Red Rider" wrote:
(AirNavalGunfireLiaisonCompany). While training at Camp Lejeune NC, I noticed something unique about their way of conducting a pay day. Of course they had the standard pay officer, also the corpsman checking shot records, pay guard, etc. but the 1st Sgt. was seated next to the pay officer. Everytime a man that had a fine from NJP (Marines call it Office Hours) the 1st Sgt would announce the amount of the fine in a loud voice. The pay officer would loudly count out the money to the Marine. Then the Marine had to pay the fine to the 1st Sgt, who would then announce again in a loud voice that he had received a payment of $XXX from "so-in-so". And that this was whatever payment of whatever total fine that "so-in-so" had received for his crime which was __________! But it wasn't over. The 1st Sgt would then turn to the pay officer and announce that he had collected the fine for etc. from "so-in-so" for doing "whatever" and would then announce that this was payment X of X payments etc. Then the pay officer would tell the 1st Sgt that on behalf of the Marine Corps, the Dept of the Navy, the Sec of Defense, the President, and the people of the United States of America etc. that he accepted payment X of X payments for the crime of X committed by 'so-in-so. Everyone enjoyed the show, except the individual paying the fine. Wasn't a USMC-wide practice, nor, as of 1961 - 1962, a CLNC or 2dMarDiv-wide practice. OTOH, there was nothing in those days precluding a CO, company, battalion, or even regimental, from establishing such a practice. Dunno who was training you [2ndANGLICO?], but it doesn't surprise me. Every unit I was ever in did different things as "standard" on cash pay days. Some, such as the periodic shot-card checks, Navy Relief/CFC "encouragements", carried over to the check era. Periodically, instead of your Platoon Sergeant or Shop NCOIC in aviation handing you your paycheck on the 5th/20th, the whole unit would muster along with a battery of corpsmen, your health/shot records at their side, ready to administer anything up to and including GOK what. Or to be lectured by the poor SLJO stuck with running the CFC campaign. -- OJ III [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading. Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.] |
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OJ,
This turn of thread reminds me of what Gunny Martin told all of us Midshipmen before we left our NROTC unit for summer cruise. There are three documents your must NEVER, under any circumstances, let out of your sight or secure possession until you reach your next duty station: * Your pay record. * Your shot card. * Your Shellback certificate (if you had one). -- Mike Kanze "You're never too old to become younger." - Mae West "Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message ... "Red Rider" wrote: (AirNavalGunfireLiaisonCompany). While training at Camp Lejeune NC, I noticed something unique about their way of conducting a pay day. Of course they had the standard pay officer, also the corpsman checking shot records, pay guard, etc. but the 1st Sgt. was seated next to the pay officer. Everytime a man that had a fine from NJP (Marines call it Office Hours) the 1st Sgt would announce the amount of the fine in a loud voice. The pay officer would loudly count out the money to the Marine. Then the Marine had to pay the fine to the 1st Sgt, who would then announce again in a loud voice that he had received a payment of $XXX from "so-in-so". And that this was whatever payment of whatever total fine that "so-in-so" had received for his crime which was __________! But it wasn't over. The 1st Sgt would then turn to the pay officer and announce that he had collected the fine for etc. from "so-in-so" for doing "whatever" and would then announce that this was payment X of X payments etc. Then the pay officer would tell the 1st Sgt that on behalf of the Marine Corps, the Dept of the Navy, the Sec of Defense, the President, and the people of the United States of America etc. that he accepted payment X of X payments for the crime of X committed by 'so-in-so. Everyone enjoyed the show, except the individual paying the fine. Wasn't a USMC-wide practice, nor, as of 1961 - 1962, a CLNC or 2dMarDiv-wide practice. OTOH, there was nothing in those days precluding a CO, company, battalion, or even regimental, from establishing such a practice. Dunno who was training you [2ndANGLICO?], but it doesn't surprise me. Every unit I was ever in did different things as "standard" on cash pay days. Some, such as the periodic shot-card checks, Navy Relief/CFC "encouragements", carried over to the check era. Periodically, instead of your Platoon Sergeant or Shop NCOIC in aviation handing you your paycheck on the 5th/20th, the whole unit would muster along with a battery of corpsmen, your health/shot records at their side, ready to administer anything up to and including GOK what. Or to be lectured by the poor SLJO stuck with running the CFC campaign. -- OJ III [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading. Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.] |
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Mike Kanze wrote:
OJ, This turn of thread reminds me of what Gunny Martin told all of us Midshipmen before we left our NROTC unit for summer cruise. There are three documents your must NEVER, under any circumstances, let out of your sight or secure possession until you reach your next duty station: * Your Shellback certificate (if you had one).* How many can equate to this? My second crossing was in many ways worse than the first. Unlike the polliwogs I spent hours on the flight deck. My sunburn lasted longer than their welts. |
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Much depends on the ratio of wogs to Shellbacks.
CORAL MARU's 1975 cruise took the ship across the line for the first time in several years. Thus there weren't as many Shellbacks aboard who could mete out the requisite rites as circumstances might otherwise have demanded. The wogs suffered relatively little. But on the following cruise, and with a high percentage of Shellbacks aboard... -- Mike Kanze (still a wog) "You're never too old to become younger." - Mae West "Jim" wrote in message ... Mike Kanze wrote: OJ, This turn of thread reminds me of what Gunny Martin told all of us Midshipmen before we left our NROTC unit for summer cruise. There are three documents your must NEVER, under any circumstances, let out of your sight or secure possession until you reach your next duty station: * Your Shellback certificate (if you had one).* How many can equate to this? My second crossing was in many ways worse than the first. Unlike the polliwogs I spent hours on the flight deck. My sunburn lasted longer than their welts. |
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in
: "Jim" wrote in message ... Gord Beaman wrote: Well yes, I certainly do...I remember that they'd set up ropes on stanchions leading up to a table set out on the hangar floor where the 'Paymaster' (usually a captain) sat with his helpers (two or three airmen, corporals usually) with ledgers etc, and a couple of Military Police overlooking all and sundry. We'd march smartly the last few feet, salute, state our name rank and serial number, be presented with our stipend (in cash of course) sign for it, salute and bog off smartly. T'was called 'Pay Parade' and everyone loved it. Been a long time I must admit... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) Can't forget a Navy variation of this. Sitting at the table in the middle were the corpsmen. After getting the flu shot you got your pay! And just around the corner in the passageway, the loan sharks and gamblers collecting from their victims. Bob McKellar, actual former disbursing officer from the days of cash Got to be a pay guard for cash paydays in Japan in the mid-70s. One time the pay officer told me I didn't need to put the clip in the '45, and I told him he needed to find a new pay guard. Dave in San Diego |
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Jim wrote in :
Mike Kanze wrote: OJ, This turn of thread reminds me of what Gunny Martin told all of us Midshipmen before we left our NROTC unit for summer cruise. There are three documents your must NEVER, under any circumstances, let out of your sight or secure possession until you reach your next duty station: * Your Shellback certificate (if you had one).* How many can equate to this? My second crossing was in many ways worse than the first. Unlike the polliwogs I spent hours on the flight deck. My sunburn lasted longer than their welts. Amen. My first one was overcast and almost rainy, actually pretty comfortable in August heading for the IO. Second time was a scorcher! Dave in San Diego |
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Dave in San Diego wrote:
"Bob McKellar" wrote in : "Jim" wrote in message ... Gord Beaman wrote: Well yes, I certainly do...I remember that they'd set up ropes on stanchions leading up to a table set out on the hangar floor where the 'Paymaster' (usually a captain) sat with his helpers (two or three airmen, corporals usually) with ledgers etc, and a couple of Military Police overlooking all and sundry. We'd march smartly the last few feet, salute, state our name rank and serial number, be presented with our stipend (in cash of course) sign for it, salute and bog off smartly. T'was called 'Pay Parade' and everyone loved it. Been a long time I must admit... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) Can't forget a Navy variation of this. Sitting at the table in the middle were the corpsmen. After getting the flu shot you got your pay! And just around the corner in the passageway, the loan sharks and gamblers collecting from their victims. Bob McKellar, actual former disbursing officer from the days of cash Got to be a pay guard for cash paydays in Japan in the mid-70s. One time the pay officer told me I didn't need to put the clip in the '45, and I told him he needed to find a new pay guard. Dave in San Diego Don't tell me I'm the only one old enough to remember short-arm inspections every payday. Also, learning to salute and request permission to leave the ship while displaying ID card, liberty card, bar of hotel soap and pack of rubbers to indicate readiness to go ashore. Rick |
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Yofuri wrote:
Dave in San Diego wrote: "Bob McKellar" wrote in : "Jim" wrote in message ... Gord Beaman wrote: Well yes, I certainly do...I remember that they'd set up ropes on stanchions leading up to a table set out on the hangar floor where the 'Paymaster' (usually a captain) sat with his helpers (two or three airmen, corporals usually) with ledgers etc, and a couple of Military Police overlooking all and sundry. We'd march smartly the last few feet, salute, state our name rank and serial number, be presented with our stipend (in cash of course) sign for it, salute and bog off smartly. T'was called 'Pay Parade' and everyone loved it. Been a long time I must admit... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) Can't forget a Navy variation of this. Sitting at the table in the middle were the corpsmen. After getting the flu shot you got your pay! And just around the corner in the passageway, the loan sharks and gamblers collecting from their victims. Bob McKellar, actual former disbursing officer from the days of cash Got to be a pay guard for cash paydays in Japan in the mid-70s. One time the pay officer told me I didn't need to put the clip in the '45, and I told him he needed to find a new pay guard. Dave in San Diego Don't tell me I'm the only one old enough to remember short-arm inspections every payday. Also, learning to salute and request permission to leave the ship while displaying ID card, liberty card, bar of hotel soap and pack of rubbers to indicate readiness to go ashore. Rick You poor buggers... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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I wore Aviation Greens all the way up until 1998 when I retrired. I thought they were still in the seabag today. They were the best! I wore greens at my retirement ceremony. Tom Clarke CDR USN(Ret) Herk Driver, but I did get 15 traps in the T-28 and S-2 back in the day when all Naval Aviators hit the boat during flight training. The good old daze! |
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I ran him through a few FCLPs and he flew it from the left seat. Made
a fair approach considering his shakey knees. |
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