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Old October 20th 05, 09:17 PM
Skylune
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

The underlying cause of most accidents (land sea or air):

http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1182.htm

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Old October 20th 05, 09:19 PM
Gary Drescher
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:xOS5f.45725$b65.39287@okepread01...

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
What I think you all should be advocating in adjusting the statistics is
to remove acrobatic flying, which has a higher accident rate than GA and
makes GA look more dangerous than it actually is.


Oh crap I think my computer is going to explode. Skylune is right about
something. Must be a mistake on his part.

It's not like they count NASCAR accidents in the auto accident stats.


He's not right. A negligible fraction of GA flying is aerobatic, so even if
aerobatic flying has a higher accident rate, it has virtually no impact on
the overall GA rate. (Same for the impact of NASCAR accidents on overall
auto stats.)

--Gary


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Old October 20th 05, 09:26 PM
Skylune
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

"Only if those 4000 hours are all ahead of him. If he already has 2000,
those are in the past, and can no longer kill them, so his odds go to 1
in 50. This is without getting into Killing Zone issues, which is a
whole other controversy..." is what Mike said.

Well, I guess I must have misconstrued what he is saying from reading this
single post. All these subthreads, and so little time....

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Old October 20th 05, 09:41 PM
Skylune
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

Happy to help. Of course if you really stripped GA safety down into
subcategories, I suspect recreational pilots would have the second worst
safety stats, behind the stunt pilots.

BTW, I never said GA is "dangerous." Dangerous is too subjective. Just
that GA is riskier than driving, flying commerical, driving, and yes, even
walking. I fly in my buddy's 172 (I have to operate the GPS though..).
Only on very clear days with minimal winds -- then I trust him. He will
fly in conditions that are pretty marginal for a VFR pilot, and he has
gotten "disoriented" over the Long Island Sound when I was in his plane
once. I just hope he doesn't become another statistic.

He doesn't seem to believe that EVERYTHING is about managing risk.




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Old October 20th 05, 11:22 PM
Matt Whiting
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

Skylune wrote:

Happy to help. Of course if you really stripped GA safety down into
subcategories, I suspect recreational pilots would have the second worst
safety stats, behind the stunt pilots.

BTW, I never said GA is "dangerous." Dangerous is too subjective. Just
that GA is riskier than driving, flying commerical, driving, and yes, even
walking. I fly in my buddy's 172 (I have to operate the GPS though..).
Only on very clear days with minimal winds -- then I trust him. He will
fly in conditions that are pretty marginal for a VFR pilot, and he has
gotten "disoriented" over the Long Island Sound when I was in his plane
once. I just hope he doesn't become another statistic.

He doesn't seem to believe that EVERYTHING is about managing risk.


And what does managing risk mean?

Matt
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Old October 21st 05, 01:33 AM
Jay Honeck
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

The underlying cause of most accidents (land sea or air):

http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1182.htm


Sweet!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 27th 05, 11:51 AM
Tom
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Default GA _is_ safer than some modes of transport. Was: Tragedy

"I have to operate the GPS though ..."

Please explain how you do that Skylune, with your head inserted all the way
up your rectum? Do you have the GPS in there with your head? And are your
hands and arms in there too?

Tom

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Happy to help. Of course if you really stripped GA safety down into
subcategories, I suspect recreational pilots would have the second worst
safety stats, behind the stunt pilots.

BTW, I never said GA is "dangerous." Dangerous is too subjective. Just
that GA is riskier than driving, flying commerical, driving, and yes, even
walking. I fly in my buddy's 172 (I have to operate the GPS though..).
Only on very clear days with minimal winds -- then I trust him. He will
fly in conditions that are pretty marginal for a VFR pilot, and he has
gotten "disoriented" over the Long Island Sound when I was in his plane
once. I just hope he doesn't become another statistic.

He doesn't seem to believe that EVERYTHING is about managing risk.






 




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