2005 Junior Worlds Accident

I'm all for low-passes.

That said, I think getting so low as to make hitting ground based
"obstructions" a possibility with a wing bank is a whooole 'nother thing.
Exponentially increased danger factor!

Spectating around racing events is always a risk...whether the crowd
realizes it, or not. Consider all the reality TV shows you've seen footage
of with various cars, go carts...etc and their associated parts going flying
into the stand and over "safety-barriers" into the crowd.

Over-exuberant and testosteronized youth + highly perched photographer = one
unfortunate accident occurence in our racing sport.

Do we need to mandate mile-high finishes and safety bunkers for spectators?

Life's a risk.

At 16:24 13 February 2007, John Bojack wrote:
I'm all for low-passes.

That said, I think getting so low as to make hitting
ground based
'obstructions' a possibility with a wing bank is a
whooole 'nother thing.
Exponentially increased danger factor!

Spectating around racing events is always a risk...whether
the crowd
realizes it, or not. Consider all the reality TV
shows you've seen footage
of with various cars, go carts...etc and their associated
parts going flying
into the stand and over 'safety-barriers' into the
crowd.

Over-exuberant and testosteronized youth + highly perched
photographer = one
unfortunate accident occurence in our racing sport.

Do we need to mandate mile-high finishes and safety
bunkers for spectators?

Life's a risk.

Especially so for both the stupid and the reckless.
The problem is that neither recognize their status.

On Feb 13, 10:24 am, Nyal Williams Especially so for both the stupid
and the reckless.

The problem is that neither recognize their status.

I can't help wondering how much the known presence of the photographer
influenced the behavior of the pilots. Is it normal at UK contests to
finish as described in the accident report or are approaches more
conservative without the known photo op. Perhaps a UK competition
pilot could answer that please.

Andy

There's been so much written about how "unsafe" low, high speed finishes
are. A shame, as this "is" truly the most spectator worthy part of a contest
.. . . guess I should say "was", at least in the USA.

It's hard to argue against the "S" word, and in our culture, the "L"
(liability) word too. Many who read ras are smart enough to not even bother.
Those who think everyone else should behave in the manner they deem
appropriate know that well. As others have posted, much of life is about
risk. Stay home and do nothing, have a heart attack. NO! Get out there and
be active, try to mitigate those risks you can, accept those you can't, and
get on with the activities you enjoy. I want to enjoy my grandkids, but I'm
not going to stop riding motorcycles or flying.

I enjoy watching gliders flying fast and close. Those are some nice
pictures, Asbjorn, and show that other countries still know how to finish a
soaring contest properly (grin). There's nothing quite so elegant,
beautiful, and with such an awesome sound, as a glider that passes close.
Er, well, I guess I can think of one thing.

bumper
ASH26E
Minden, NV
"Dare to be different . . . circle in sink"

"Asbjorn Hojmark" wrote in message
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On 13 Feb 2007 11:26:34 -0800, "Andy" wrote:

Is it normal at UK contests to finish as described in the accident
report or are approaches more conservative without the known photo
op.

... Pribina Cup (Slovakia):

http://tinyurl.com/ysftt2
http://tinyurl.com/ynrnp5
http://tinyurl.com/2cywst
http://tinyurl.com/ywmgzf
http://tinyurl.com/23772j
http://tinyurl.com/2cv5ou
http://tinyurl.com/2xzmeg
http://tinyurl.com/yuxvuc
http://tinyurl.com/yvbo7u

... or the European Gliding Championships (Finland)

http://tinyurl.com/2hjqua
http://tinyurl.com/yns5ql
http://tinyurl.com/yqgneo
http://tinyurl.com/yvc69d
http://tinyurl.com/28warp
http://tinyurl.com/29sgnq
http://tinyurl.com/2f5zww
http://tinyurl.com/24zeek
http://tinyurl.com/ynohep

... or the World Gliding Championship (Sweden)

http://tinyurl.com/26vp8w
http://tinyurl.com/youoaf
http://tinyurl.com/2d5xe6
http://tinyurl.com/22hssr
http://tinyurl.com/2gmnva
http://tinyurl.com/2euc68
http://tinyurl.com/2cyhrd
http://tinyurl.com/ypjkfo
http://tinyurl.com/yt4aws

-A
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On 14 Feb., 00:06, Asbjorn Hojmark wrote:
On 13 Feb 2007 11:26:34 -0800, "Andy" wrote:

Is it normal at UK contests to finish as described in the accident
report or are approaches more conservative without the known photo
op.

... Pribina Cup (Slovakia):

http://tinyurl.com/ysftt2http://tiny...url.com/yvbo7u

... or the European Gliding Championships (Finland)

http://tinyurl.com/2hjquahttp://tiny...url.com/ynohep

... or the World Gliding Championship (Sweden)

http://tinyurl.com/26vp8whttp://tiny...url.com/yt4aws


And you can add the European Championships 2004 in Slovakia:
http://www.nitra2005.sk/photos.php?g...gs_by_Elfo&P=1
and http://www.nitra2005.sk/photos.php?
gal=day11_2005-07-20_by_Puppy_landings

Two of the pictures where used in the accident report. I'm pretty
sure, actually, that the guy in the blue T-Shirt is Neil.

In some pictures you can see power lines in the background. They are
about 7-800m from the finishline and it was expressely forbidden to go
lower and then pulling up over them. So everybody cleared them and
then dived for the wheat. Great fun, I can tell you!

Regards
Marcel

All the pictures from the WGC in Sweden shows gliders either
inside the airfield perimeter (after crossing the finish
line for a straight in landing) or on final approach after a
speed finish. Piltos flying below 50 metres at the finish
line were penalized.

If you were so low out side the airfield you will hit the
trees that are visible in the photos.

Low finishes was a topic taken seriously by both the comp
management and our stewards.

Robert Danewid
Championships Director WGC2006


Asbjorn Hojmark skrev:
On 13 Feb 2007 11:26:34 -0800, "Andy" wrote:

Is it normal at UK contests to finish as described in the accident
report or are approaches more conservative without the known photo
op.

... Pribina Cup (Slovakia):

http://tinyurl.com/ysftt2
http://tinyurl.com/ynrnp5
http://tinyurl.com/2cywst
http://tinyurl.com/ywmgzf
http://tinyurl.com/23772j
http://tinyurl.com/2cv5ou
http://tinyurl.com/2xzmeg
http://tinyurl.com/yuxvuc
http://tinyurl.com/yvbo7u

... or the European Gliding Championships (Finland)

http://tinyurl.com/2hjqua
http://tinyurl.com/yns5ql
http://tinyurl.com/yqgneo
http://tinyurl.com/yvc69d
http://tinyurl.com/28warp
http://tinyurl.com/29sgnq
http://tinyurl.com/2f5zww
http://tinyurl.com/24zeek
http://tinyurl.com/ynohep

... or the World Gliding Championship (Sweden)

http://tinyurl.com/26vp8w
http://tinyurl.com/youoaf
http://tinyurl.com/2d5xe6
http://tinyurl.com/22hssr
http://tinyurl.com/2gmnva
http://tinyurl.com/2euc68
http://tinyurl.com/2cyhrd
http://tinyurl.com/ypjkfo
http://tinyurl.com/yt4aws

-A