Money grubbing FBO's

NTurk wrote:
On Mar 26, 11:11 am, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

Same thing happened at RAP; when Rapid Fuels opened, WestJet dropped their
price about $0.75 to $1.00 a gallon after having a nice monopoly for quite
some time.

How would you know?You are not even a pilot, you're a construction
worker.Do you use av gas otj?

my my my....has Eli Lily been withholding you shipments of Prozac
lately?

NTurk wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:09 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:

Matt has been around here a while. Who the hell are you?

"Gig"' , and just who the hell might you be? And why is it that you
would want to know who the hell it is that I am? Do you ask others on
Usenet this question. Can I not be who I am without a long
distingushed history on Google? You cut me to the quick, "Gig", but I
would respectfully submit that you are presenting quite the paradox in
that a person must have an identity to post here, but he cannot have
an identity without having posted here "AWHILE". How long have you
been here? What are your qualifications to post here?

Newton Turk
Chief Test Pilot
NASA Dryden Reseach Center

Hm...someone with a yahoo account but claims to be at Dryden...
that's questionable right there. There's no one by the name of
Newton Turk at Dryden, working for NASA. And when talking to
Flight Ops, they confirm there's no one by that name.

So, Mr Test Pilot, you're a fake, and a rude one too.

For those who wish to confirm, NASA Dryden 661.276.3311

And you may not attempt to claim "classified" or black ops. Why?
Because under US DOD (and other) rules and laws, you may not deny
what is true, only refuse to comment. So, when multiple people
at Dryden and Edwards deny your existence, there is
sufficient and necessary reason to believe them.

Me? I spent 2 years at JPL and drove up to Edwards AFB/Dryden
frequently. We got the good seats for shuttle landings!

NTurk wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:09 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:

Matt has been around here a while. Who the hell are you?

"Gig"' , and just who the hell might you be? And why is it that you
would want to know who the hell it is that I am? Do you ask others on
Usenet this question. Can I not be who I am without a long
distingushed history on Google? You cut me to the quick, "Gig", but I
would respectfully submit that you are presenting quite the paradox in
that a person must have an identity to post here, but he cannot have
an identity without having posted here "AWHILE". How long have you
been here? What are your qualifications to post here?

Newton Turk
Chief Test Pilot
NASA Dryden Reseach Center

Well Newt I never said anyone couldn't post but showing up to attack a long
standing member is pretty much the definition of a troll. Lying about who
and what you are just proves you are an ass whoever you might be.

"NTurk" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 26, 11:11 am, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

Same thing happened at RAP; when Rapid Fuels opened, WestJet dropped
their
price about $0.75 to $1.00 a gallon after having a nice monopoly for
quite
some time.

How would you know?You are not even a pilot, you're a construction
worker.

Yeah...a construction worker with a yearly income well in excess of six
figures.

Sure beats your wildest fantasy, SFB loser.

Do you use av gas otj?

Yeah, AAMOF I do. When I fly to construction sites, I use plenty of 100LL in
my new bird.

I suspect MXMANIAC has more hours than this phoney.

Matt Barrow
Owner
Performance Homes, LLC.

"Blanche" wrote in message
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NTurk wrote:
On Mar 26, 11:11 am, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

Same thing happened at RAP; when Rapid Fuels opened, WestJet dropped
their
price about $0.75 to $1.00 a gallon after having a nice monopoly for
quite
some time.

How would you know?You are not even a pilot, you're a construction
worker.Do you use av gas otj?

my my my....has Eli Lily been withholding you shipments of Prozac
lately?

Either that or mommy hasn't given him the teat.

Matt

What about that tall corn? And beanstalks -- are they painted/strobed?

"Knee high by the Fourth of July" is what the NOTAMs will read for Iowa.

Ha! That was before all the genetically modified stuff.

Corn is now knee-high by the 3rd week of June, sometimes sooner.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:38:21 -0400, Jon Kraus
wrote:

They've been cash strapped for a decade or so now... WTF? Why don't

Lot longer than that.

they vote someone in to do the job better? I moved from Monroe 26 years

We're slaves to the auto industry. That is suck ... er... such
(Freudian slip?) a large voting block I doubt it'd make much
difference who we get. They try to blame every one except the
industry, yet probably 90 % of our woes go back to an industry that is
still trying to sell large gas guzzlers by calling them flex fuel
vehicles that probably wouldn't last a year burning E85. Besides, who
is going to spend the extra for a fuel that gets considerably less
MPG.

Now government is pushing for electric cars (we don't have the
infrastructure to support them and it takes a lot of power generated
some where to turn them, usually generated by coal burning power
plants.), Hydrogen power (takes even more power to generate), plus
using corn and soybeans for alcohol which is inefficient and takes
food crops out of production.

Its true these things can be done well in specific instances and there
are areas where solar power is quite viable. However, here in the
Great Lakes states we have so little capability they don't even list
us on the pay back charts. Most of this stuff that looks so good and
is being pushed by the politicians doesn't scale well. OTOH if they'd
go to hemp and microbes to generate the alcohol (like Canada) we could
build quite an industry without having nearly as much of an effect on
the economy.
However the auto industry is going to have to bit the bullet and build
mainly cars that get good mileage. They could even build luxury cars
that would do so, but the big cars, trucks, and SUVs are going to have
to go except for those who really need them. Until people *really*
economize they won't have much incentive.

I wrote a short piece for the local paper to answer a question some
one asked about switching to the energy saving fluorescent lights.
Rush Limbaugh reportedly said they are a hoax. I did the measurements
and they really do put out the same lumens as an incandescent that
takes three times as much power although it's in a wavelength where I
need to run a bit more power and can only save about 50%.
I figured changing 10 100 watt light bulbs to the energy saving type
per home and figured the lights would only be on about 4 hours a day
so I took a very conservative approach. With the relatively low rates
we have here in Michigan that'd only be 20 cents a day saved per home.
Based on the number of occupied homes in the US according to the 2001
census it works out to millions a day and something like 40 billion
per year. It was enough energy to power 18,000 cars an hour per day at
50 MPH. I'd have to go back and redo the figures but it was one of
those where a little at each home would have been enough to almost
eliminate the need for one power generation station.

Even projecting some improvements in the efficiency of generating
alternative energy sources, we are still looking at roughly $3.50 a
gallon gas to make them competitive, or economically viable..
Of course the boosters say we only have to increase yields. That
takes chemicals and a lot more energy so you don't gain near as much
as it appears.

ago adn have never looked back

Don't blame you. Now I'm kinda anchored down. At my age I have the
large tower and antenna system that would be costly to hire taken
down. (Each guy anchor weighs over 17,000 pounds) Still we are looking
at the possibility. Maybe I can find another ham looking for an acre
out in the country with a ready made antenna system. My wife and I
would both like a warmer climate, but with out mold, mildew (lets out
Florida and the gulf coast) or hurricanes (adds the East Coast to the
list), and I peg California as about the only state worse than
Michigan. That only leaves the south west and I find that too
desolate.


Jon


OTOH I may have mentioned, the State of Michigan is strapped for cash
and some of the departments are really pushing the limits of legality.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:31:45 -0500, Ross wrote:

Jon Kraus wrote:

Got a fuel bill from our FBO (KUMP Indianapolis Metro) the other day.
Not only do they charge one of the highest fuel prices around, they also
charge 6% Indiana sales tax on top of the 1% Indianapolis Airport
Authority surcharge (because they can).

When I called to inquire about charging 6% sales tax on the fuel they
just said "that is how we've done it for 20 years and everyone else does
it like that too." I've never had a sales tax added on top of the fuel
price before.

I thought that all the taxes we included in the price of the fuel?
Anyone else ever experience this?

Jon

I had that happen years ago DRIVING though Indiana. On my way back I
filled up before the state line. I have see it elsewhere also.
Fayetteville, AR (KFYV) does this. I always that was taxing a tax. But,
they can.

Headed south on I75 out of Michigan I stopped at an Ohio gas station
not too far south of the border (Near the turn pike). They had some
really good gas prices. Thing is, I put 5 gallons more in the tank
than it's capable of holding and it wasn't empty.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Newps wrote:

It has to get below 1000 and 3? I live out west where an actual 10 mile
viz day really sucks. I'm not going anywhere at 1000/3. I'm not
setting off for the midwest if the viz is less than 10 east of the
Missouri, because that means the weather is about to be **** poor.



10mi vis is darn good VFR here in Northeast during the summer. It's not
uncommon to go weeks at a time with vis between 5 and 10 mi.

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:52:22 -0400, Ray Andraka
wrote:

Newps wrote:

It has to get below 1000 and 3? I live out west where an actual 10 mile
viz day really sucks. I'm not going anywhere at 1000/3. I'm not
setting off for the midwest if the viz is less than 10 east of the
Missouri, because that means the weather is about to be **** poor.

Hell, we call that CAVU out here in the Great Lakes!
They send the students out when it's greater than 1500 and 5.
When I left BJC with 1500 and 5 they thought I was crazy. Then I told
them it was a lot better than what I could expect at home.

Below is and actual quote of a VFR briefing I had out of Marysvill KS
and that is well WEST of the Missippi. "Your in luck. If you go right
away it looks good 40 miles either side of your flight path. Expect
visibility 5 and ceilings of 1500. Both much less in many instances of
heavy rain. Have a good trip!" and that is a word for word quote near
as I can remember. (absolutely no mention of VFR not recommended) OH,
yahhhh...Winds were 30G50 right down the strip when we took off.
Staying at 500 feet we had a tail wind of well over 100 knots.
Precipitation static was so bad I had to shut off the master twice to
get the nav radios to work.

When we got home my wife remarked, "Yah know, that Dramamine is
wonderful stuff!".




10mi vis is darn good VFR here in Northeast during the summer. It's not
uncommon to go weeks at a time with vis between 5 and 10 mi.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com