Top Ten Things that Suck About Oshkosh

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"Morgans" wrote:

There are more events held on the airport property than airventure every
year. More permanent infrastructure could only be a good thing for these
events to grow, and attract more events to the grounds.

Homeland Security is having more say in who and where groups can play on
airports.

It was fun to look at the wide array of airplanes, but I have to admit
that I'm not a crowd person and the heat, humidity and crowds took away
most of the fun for me.

There have been years when it was so hot and humid that it was hard to
have fun. I don't remember '95 specifically, but I know there was a
run of brutal summers in the '90s that made OSH tough to take. (Back
then we were camping in Mary's aunt's driveway, in our pop-up camper,
in nearby Neenah, so I could step into air conditioning in the
evening... ;-)

So, I'm glad it appeals to many folks, but give me a local fly-in
breakfast any day! You get to fly, you don't have huge crowds, the food
is always great

You had me up till that last line. I've eaten more rubber eggs at fly-
in breakfasts than I care to remember, and the food is rarely
"great". Luckily, it's not the food that attracts me to these
wonderful little aviation icons...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
It was fun to look at the wide array of airplanes, but I have to admit
that I'm not a crowd person and the heat, humidity and crowds took away
most of the fun for me.

There have been years when it was so hot and humid that it was hard to
have fun. I don't remember '95 specifically, but I know there was a
run of brutal summers in the '90s that made OSH tough to take. (Back
then we were camping in Mary's aunt's driveway, in our pop-up camper,
in nearby Neenah, so I could step into air conditioning in the
evening... ;-)

So, I'm glad it appeals to many folks, but give me a local fly-in
breakfast any day! You get to fly, you don't have huge crowds, the food
is always great

You had me up till that last line. I've eaten more rubber eggs at fly-
in breakfasts than I care to remember, and the food is rarely
"great". Luckily, it's not the food that attracts me to these
wonderful little aviation icons...

You just haven't been to right places! Stop by N38 on either Memorial
Day weekend or Labor Day weekend (Sunday morning on both weekends).
There are several other airports around here that have very nice fly-in
breakfasts and the price is right ($4-5 typically).

Matt

"john smith" wrote

Homeland Security is having more say in who and where groups can play on
airports.

Unless you know that what you are saying applies directly to Oshkosh, I have
to say that you don't know what you are talking about, in this case.

There are LARGE national conventions taking place at Oshkosh.

All there needs to be is a fence in-between where the people are staying and
having the convention, and where the runway access is, and the security
issue is moot.
--
Jim in NC

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
It was fun to look at the wide array of airplanes, but I have to admit
that I'm not a crowd person and the heat, humidity and crowds took away
most of the fun for me.

There have been years when it was so hot and humid that it was hard to
have fun. I don't remember '95 specifically, but I know there was a
run of brutal summers in the '90s that made OSH tough to take. (Back
then we were camping in Mary's aunt's driveway, in our pop-up camper,
in nearby Neenah, so I could step into air conditioning in the
evening... ;-)

So, I'm glad it appeals to many folks, but give me a local fly-in
breakfast any day! You get to fly, you don't have huge crowds, the food
is always great

You had me up till that last line. I've eaten more rubber eggs at fly-
in breakfasts than I care to remember, and the food is rarely
"great". Luckily, it's not the food that attracts me to these
wonderful little aviation icons...

Scrambled eggs are supposed to be rubbery, and the hash browns are supposed
to be soaked in pancake syrup. It's the other places besides fly-ins that
don't know how to make them!

"Morgans" wrote:
"john smith" wrote

Homeland Security is having more say in who and where groups can play
on airports.

Unless you know that what you are saying applies directly to Oshkosh,
I have to say that you don't know what you are talking about, in this
case.

There are LARGE national conventions taking place at Oshkosh.

All there needs to be is a fence in-between where the people are
staying and having the convention, and where the runway access is, and
the security issue is moot.

You know - I'm surprised that the TSA didn't order a TFR over Oshkosh
since there would be so many people there. ;-)

(Rats - I made the mistake of Googling to see if that joke had been
done, and sure enough it is several years old:

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...6401e67e&cat=6
)

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 00:14:06 GMT, "Ken Finney"
wrote:


Scrambled eggs are supposed to be rubbery, and the hash browns are supposed
to be soaked in pancake syrup. It's the other places besides fly-ins that
don't know how to make them!


At least one person understands...

I can't cook, but when I looked out at the 15 Beech 19/23/24 type
aircraft parked nearby, I knew the fly-in I hosted was a success!

"john smith" wrote
Homeland Security is having more say in who and where groups can play on
airports.

"Morgans" wrote:
Unless you know that what you are saying applies directly to Oshkosh, I have
to say that you don't know what you are talking about, in this case.
There are LARGE national conventions taking place at Oshkosh.
All there needs to be is a fence in-between where the people are staying and
having the convention, and where the runway access is, and the security
issue is moot.

That is exactly my point, Jim.
Fences are going up at every airport at each airport's expense.
Post 9/11 our airport manage was told they had to put up a fence and
control all access to the airport movement areas.
Time was anyone could walk out the door of the FBO and stroll around
looking at airplanes. Not anymore.

On Jul 31, 9:16 pm, john smith wrote:
"john smith" wrote
Homeland Security is having more say in who and where groups can play on
airports.
"Morgans" wrote:
Unless you know that what you are saying applies directly to Oshkosh, I have
to say that you don't know what you are talking about, in this case.
There are LARGE national conventions taking place at Oshkosh.
All there needs to be is a fence in-between where the people are staying and
having the convention, and where the runway access is, and the security
issue is moot.

That is exactly my point, Jim.
Fences are going up at every airport at each airport's expense.
Post 9/11 our airport manage was told they had to put up a fence and
control all access to the airport movement areas.
Time was anyone could walk out the door of the FBO and stroll around
looking at airplanes. Not anymore.

you can at MDZ

On Jul 31, 6:09 am, Matt Whiting wrote:
So, I'm glad it appeals to many folks, but give me a local fly-in
breakfast any day!

agreed, but when i go to those i get really frustrated. I'll see a
plane and try to find the pilot to ask a technical question about it
and he'll be busy mixing up another batch of pancakes or will be an
owner-only type who doesnt know how his airplane works.

at oshkosh i tend to go to the really esoteric seminars. in fact i was
there nearly 4 days before i went to look at planes. talked to a
couple of the NASA folks, a composites expert, Leonard Millholland
about his deouble eagle design, and shell oil about the benefits of
ashless oil.

nope, i didnt see yeager, as he just repeats what was in his bio, and
his speaking is getting harder and harder to understand, along with
the massive crowd that flocks to him.

did'nt go to any of the virgin galactic presentations after i saw the
one in theater/woods. a whole pile of BS with marketing gloss applied
liberally(scaled just announced who whas supplying their honeycomb,
and they expect us to believe they'll roll out SS2 early next year
when they still dont have a finalized design on the seats or flight
suits?)

also, going to the building seminars beats having pilot joe show you
how *he* builds an airplane(and wether it is the right way or not!)