Any Ideas on Turning off the Spammer?

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:50:34 -0400, "Doug Semler" wrote in
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... this thread ... is completely OT for the group ...

Yes, it's OT (as indicated by the "OT" in the subject line)
but not utterly irrelevant to the life of the group.

Some discussion of how Usenet works (or fails to work)
and potential remedies is helpful from time to time.

Or so it seems to me.

Marty
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:55:47 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
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I don't understand what the purpose of the spammer is. How does he
profit by this?

It could be an ego issue: He demonstrates his power to disrupt
thousands of users. Or it could be a means of encoding messages
within multiple articles al la spread spectrum technique. Or
something else.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:55:47 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in

I don't understand what the purpose of the spammer is. How does he
profit by this?

It could be an ego issue: He demonstrates his power to disrupt
thousands of users.

Hmm. Who was it that said "Are you able to provide any evidence that what
you purport actually
occurs?"

-c

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:55:47 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:

How does he profit
by this?

How does a vandal typically profit?

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:55:47 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:
How does he profit by this?

How does a vandal typically profit?

About as much as a goth, I think.

;-)

On 2007-08-13 10:55:47 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" said:

On Aug 13, 4:01 am, "Kyle Boatright" wrote:
I'm seeing a huge number of spam postings in this group. I'm sure they are
from a bot, but since the address keeps switching, I don't know how to block
the messages in OE.

Suggestions?

I don't understand what the purpose of the spammer is. How does he
profit by this?

-Robert

It is possible they want to push you into using news servers that
filter their attacks. Supernews, for example, might be behind this
attack. Either they, or someone claiming to be them, urged switching to
Supernews before the attack.

There are people who paint the "Mona Lisa." There are people who paint
mustaches on the "Mona Lisa." Sporgers are the latter.
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Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-08-13 04:01:00 -0700, "Kyle Boatright" said:

I'm seeing a huge number of spam postings in this group. I'm sure they are
from a bot, but since the address keeps switching, I don't know how to block
the messages in OE.

Suggestions?

Ignore the sporgers. About half a dozen news groups that I subscribe to
got hit with sporge threats from someone purporting to be Supernews.
(Shame on Supernews if they were the ones who really made these
threats.) Only one news group had people post responses to the threat
-- rec.aviation.piloting. And that is the only news group that got
sporge flooded.

Get a clue, guys. The sporgers are harvesting your names from your
responses and using them for more sporge attacks. That is what sporgers
do. Next thing you know "Jay Honeck" will be posting 'the fat flings
west of the nile milk cows" on some random news group, just because he
replied to the original sporge threat.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:46:41 -0700, C J Campbell wrote in
2007081313464116807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

Ignore the sporgers. About half a dozen news groups that I subscribe to
got hit with sporge threats from someone purporting to be Supernews.
(Shame on Supernews if they were the ones who really made these
threats.)

Which is more likely?

A. Someone with a resentment against Supernews uses their
name as part of a flood attack on sci.crypt.

B. Supernews, one of the largest and best news services
in existence, decided to sign its name to a flood attack
so that everyone would despise them.

I am a paying customer of Supernews and know which case
seems more likely to me.

Marty
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On 2007-08-13 13:56:16 -0700, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
said:

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:46:41 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote in
2007081313464116807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

Ignore the sporgers. About half a dozen news groups that I subscribe to
got hit with sporge threats from someone purporting to be Supernews.
(Shame on Supernews if they were the ones who really made these
threats.)

Which is more likely?

A. Someone with a resentment against Supernews uses their
name as part of a flood attack on sci.crypt.

B. Supernews, one of the largest and best news services
in existence, decided to sign its name to a flood attack
so that everyone would despise them.

I am a paying customer of Supernews and know which case
seems more likely to me.

Marty

Well, exactly. Still, if they resent Supernews, why did they urge
switching to Supernews in order to avoid their attack?
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:01:38 -0700, C J Campbell wrote in
2007081314013850073-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

On 2007-08-13 13:56:16 -0700, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
said:

Which is more likely?

A. Someone with a resentment against Supernews uses their
name as part of a flood attack on sci.crypt.

B. Supernews, one of the largest and best news services
in existence, decided to sign its name to a flood attack
so that everyone would despise them.

I am a paying customer of Supernews and know which case
seems more likely to me.

Well, exactly. Still, if they resent Supernews, why did they urge
switching to Supernews in order to avoid their attack?

So as to make people think that Supernews was behind
the attack.

I am acquainted with one fellow from Supernews through
some committee work we do online. I heard of them
for years before I finally signed up with them. I
think it's pretty safe to say that this is not the
way Supernews drums up business.

Marty
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