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Old August 28th 07, 11:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com...
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Depends on the lease - no CFR Chapter 14 anything about it...


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Old August 28th 07, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.piloting, on Tue 28 Aug 2007 01:43:35p, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?


Hook up a tow hook to the bicycle and claim that it is a tug for moving
your aircraft. Most of the hangars that I've rented over the years don't
care what you put in them as long as you can still fit a plane in there.
At one time, I used a hangar for storage of my household items while moving
between houses (hadn't closed on the new house yet) and my plane was based
elsewhere. Some nosy asshole complained and I had to move everything to a
normal storage site.
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Old August 29th 07, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"It's not a bicycle," your honor, "it's an experimental human-powered
aircraft. I'm working on the wing design and plan to attach them soon." g

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)



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Old August 29th 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default Can the airport ban bicycles?

Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?


It is if you sign it.

Matt
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Old August 29th 07, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Is this legal?

It is if you sign it.


Sadly, they are the only show in town.

However, I disagree that it's legal for them to change the
interpretation of an existing lease, simply because we signed it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old August 29th 07, 06:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay...

You are the recipient of the oldest aviation shell game known. WHen the
local elected wheezers want to do ANY wild hair, they hang their hats on the
"...but it will void the FAA funding..." line.

Tell ya what ... if Chicago can get by with wiping an entire airport off the
map and all the FAA can do is wring its hands and say oh my, oh my, you
think they are coming down to a small Iowa town with the bicycle police?

You think any judge in his right mind is going to convict you of breach of
lease for a lousy bike or two in the hangar when it can be shown that the
bikes are used to go to the potty from the hangar?

Let the sons of bitches put anything they want in the lease and then nail
their asses if they try and enforce it.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Is this legal?


It is if you sign it.


Sadly, they are the only show in town.



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Old August 29th 07, 06:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It may be but google earth shows two grasss strips nearby. Why not move

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Is this legal?


It is if you sign it.


Sadly, they are the only show in town.

However, I disagree that it's legal for them to change the
interpretation of an existing lease, simply because we signed it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old August 29th 07, 08:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 29, 11:30 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
Is this legal?


It is if you sign it.


Sadly, they are the only show in town.

However, I disagree that it's legal for them to change the
interpretation of an existing lease, simply because we signed it.



I think your misnaming "interpretation" for "lack of enforcement of
lease provisions". You agreed to the lease to begin with. If the
lease states that you will only store things that are aircraft or
related to aircraft maintenance, and you store a bicycle there, you
are in violation of the lease's provisions REGARDLESS of whether or
not they have ever enforced the provision (unless you can show that
the bicycle is an aircraft or related to aircraft maintenance g).

There is usually a Waiver clause in leases that states something to
the effect that "lack of enforcement of any provision of the lease
shall not be construed as a waiver therof so as to excuse the other
party from future perfomance of that provision or any other
provision." And you should be careful, because violation of a lease's
provisions can put you into default of the lease (you may have a
"correction period" though. Depends on the state and/or the lease
itself. Look for a Default clause).

I should note, that even if there are no Waiver, Severability, or
Default clauses defined explicitly in your lease agreement, state law
may define them for you.

All of this is speculation because I have NO idea exactly how your
lease is worded g

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Old August 29th 07, 12:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 28, 2:43 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


My airport is specifically renting space in the winter to RV's, boats,
cars, etc. due to low occupancy... Yes, the airport has state and
federal grant money - put in a spanking new ILS a year ago...

denny

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Old August 30th 07, 10:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:45:14 -0700, Denny wrote:

On Aug 28, 2:43 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


My airport is specifically renting space in the winter to RV's, boats,
cars, etc. due to low occupancy... Yes, the airport has state and
federal grant money - put in a spanking new ILS a year ago...


And the Feds are quite happy with that as long at the money goes to
the airport and not the general fund (FAA Order 5190.6A - Airport
Compliance handbook - Available from the AOPA, no charge)

There are three books of interest. Grant Assurances, Airport
Improvement Trust Fund, and the Compliance Handbook listed above.

We even close 18/36 several times a summer for day long sports car
rallys

Roger


denny

 




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