Hilarious

Actually..

My 1998 Town Car could get 32 mpg.. With cruise on under 115 Kph..

But that is an Imperial gallon... (Canada)



Dave

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:22:11 -0600, "Neil Gould"
wrote:


Then, it's fair to give it a two out of three, excluding the "economy"
aspect, as I don't think Town Cars got anywhere near 30 mpg. ;-)

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
john smith wrote
Nothing could top the 170-"slant six"!

Yeah, just about the most buletproof engine ever. Very popular in
Australia, apparently, which says a lot for it.

There used to be a lot of them here, but I don't know anyone who used one to
stop a ballistic projectile .....

"Snapper" wrote in
u:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
john smith wrote
Nothing could top the 170-"slant six"!

Yeah, just about the most buletproof engine ever. Very popular in
Australia, apparently, which says a lot for it.

There used to be a lot of them here, but I don't know anyone who used
one to stop a ballistic projectile .....


Well, I got a friend from down there who used to hunt with a semi automatic
weapon out the back of a 206 in flight. I'll ask him. if anyone would have
tried firing on a running six banger, he would.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
Well, I got a friend from down there who used to hunt with a semi
automatic
weapon out the back of a 206 in flight.

Buffalo in the Northern Territory or tourists in Sydney?

"Snapper" wrote in news:477979fb$0$25819
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
Well, I got a friend from down there who used to hunt with a semi
automatic
weapon out the back of a 206 in flight.

Buffalo in the Northern Territory or tourists in Sydney?

Well, I think if he was going to shoot at something it would have been the
gay pride parade in sydney.
But it was crocs. Not sure where, though.
him and his buds got drunk and decided to shoot a prticularly large one
named "old bruce or something, just cause it's what you do. they tempted
him up to the shore with dead chickens or soemthing and then shot him. he
disappeared and they thought that was the end of him, but twenty minutes
later he jumped up into a boat some guy was working on and wrecked it. They
had only managed to **** him off as he lived for years afterwards!
Of course we nicknamed him "Croc hunter"

I miss flying with him.

Bertie

Matt - you deleted the wrong name (John Halpenny). You also deleted my comments from my
post, left in the stuff I quoted and responded to from his posting, to which you then
responded. IOW it looks like you're quoting me. No big deal, but errors like than can be
annoying.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
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"John Mazor" wrote in message
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- My first car was a brand new white '68 Mercury Cougar, made in the
- USA. I drove home and parked in the driveway to show it off.
- Unfortunately, I couldn't get out because the inside door handle had fallen off.
-
- It was a very nice car in many respects, but I could never drive at
- the speed limit - there was a nasty vibration between 63 and 67 mph
- that they were never able to fix. The engine lasted 45,0000 miles
- before a valve job, and the body was rusted out in five years.
-
- It could have been worse. My neighbour bought a brand new Chev at the
- same time, and after three days her window fell out. Every car I
- bought since has been made in Japan.

Sounds familiar.

In 1984, my wife and I traveled to Phoenix for the Christmas Holidays and rented a
Pontiac Trans-Am. It had 1700 miles on it.

When my wife went to put the rental contract in the glove compartment, the glove box
door fell of into her lap.

My last American car was a 1977 Chevelle Malibu Classic. They could never get the cruise
control, the radio, or one of the power windows to work properly. The front end could
never hold alignment for more than 10,000 miles.

I traded it for a Toyota Celica in 1979, then put 125K miles on that with only oil
changes and put new tires on it at 60,000.

Since then, it's been Toyota (Camry, two Four-Runners, a Tacoma and a couple Tundra's),
or Honda (two Accords and a Acura RL).

I frequently have to rent cars (typically American cars on the rental lots in smaller
towns) when I travel, and though Detroit has made some improvements, they're still
behind Japan by a wide margin.

Fortunately, they don't salt the roads our here in the west though many municipalities
are starting to do that since it's cheaper than sanding the roads three or four times.

--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

On Dec 31 2007, 10:01*am, "Maxwell" wrote:
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in 6.130...





john smith wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
AJ wrote in news:615a2c9c-fa6c-4339-a9a2-
\ Old Dodge Darts were OK actually. Or was that your point?
I had a 62 Plymouth Valiant and it was damn near bulletproof.
Relatively cheap to run too.

Nothing could top the 170-"slant six"!

Yeah, just about the most buletproof engine ever. Very popular in
Australia, apparently, which says a lot for it.

The engines and transmissions were not the problem. The slant 6s, the 273 &
318LAs, the Torque-Flight transmissions and Dana rear ends of that era were
almost unstoppable. The Dana rear end of that era was the predecessor for
zillions of 3/4 and 1 ton trucks to follow for many years to come.

The problem was everything else. The transition to plastics was in full
swing, the unibody eliminated the full frames, everything was lighted as
much as possible for fuel savings. I remember all kinds of problems with
everything from door and window operators, to heater controls, instruments,
front suspension issues and alike. What the japs were good at was building
small, lightweight and reliable cars, due to their complete attention to
every detail. I think failure of those small details sent a lot of US made
cars to the crusher while the engines and drive trains were still in pretty
good condition.- Hide quoted text -

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I had a 71 Dart with a slant six. The engine was great. But the
body, not so much. The front right fender rusted out right above the
tire. When it rained or I drove through a puddle, I got a fountain of
water spraying up. The front suspension was torsion bars, and the
left mount rusted out and the front end dropped on that side. It was
still drivable, but the ride left a lot to be desired. I found a shop
that re-welded both strut mounts, and kept driving it.

Later I got a 77 Subaru, and it was the same story. The drive train
was great, but the body rusted to crap. The passenger side floor pan
rusted through in spots, so the passenger got wet if I hit a big
puddle. I heard a rumor that the Japanese used more recycled steel in
their cars, and that caused them to rust more easily. I doubt it was
true, but that Subaru made me wonder.

Later still, I was lucky enough to buy a K car (I was a Dodge fan back
then). That was a real piece of Krap.

Phil

How do you expect American companies to compete against the world when the
American companies have to pay their workers 60k -100k per year, whether
they work or not, and then support them in retirement in that same standard
of living for as long as thirty to forty years? As the standard of living
in Asian companies grows, and the worker demands match the growth, the
quality of their products will suffer in comparison as they are cost-reduced
to be competitive on the world market. Remember that as you crow about how
great the products are from developing companies, you are purchasing that
quality at the expense of your fellow workers. Please do not then complain
about how manufacturing has left our shores.

Ten years ago GM spend more for health care for its workers than for steel.
Has anyone here (except Jay) priced family health insurance? Not just your
share of the bill for group insurance that your employer subsidizes, but the
actual cost of individual insurance with family coverage? The amazing thing
is that American companies are as competitive as they are.

2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open many
factories in America.

"LWG" wrote in message
...

How do you expect American companies to compete against the world when the
American companies have to pay their workers 60k -100k per year, whether
they work or not, and then support them in retirement in that same
standard of living for as long as thirty to forty years?
.................................................. ..........

.................................................. ...Remember that as you
crow about how great the products are from developing companies, you are
purchasing that quality at the expense of your fellow workers.

That.....does......not.....compute! That.......does......not......compute!

TP

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:37:39 +0200, "Snowbird"
wrote:

I once listened to Dave Platt, CEO of Hewlett-Packard when they still made
the world's best oscilloscopes.

His message was about change. "Normally, change happens only when the pain
of continuing exceeds the pain of making the change. The leaders will be
those who dare to change sooner".

Think of the day when avgas will cost $10 a gallon as it already does in
Europe, and you still want to continue flying. The Europeans already prove
it's doable, so better start preparing now.

Unfortunately due to regulations and cost GA in Europe is a mere
shadow of what we see in the US.

Roger (K8RI)