VWs

But try to hot rod it and you may (or may not) live to regret it.

For what it's worth...

YMMV

Richard

Thanks, Richard, for sharing all those insights and experiences.

"Charles Vincent" wrote in message
t...
| Anyolmouse wrote:
|
|
| I think a four or five hour trip in 106° temperatures running at 70
mph
| except for slowing down for a few small towns is a pretty good test.
The
| van was geared such that 85 mph was tops in speed. BTW, the 210° oil
| temp was observed when slowing down in these towns. Not while on the
| open highway. While it is true that you will be running from 65% to
75%
| power at cruise in an aircraft, you will also be at a lower OAT.
|
|
| The engine in your bus does not have a lot in common with the VW
engines
| people are flying for the most part. You indicated that you had a
"type
| IV" -- VW's admission that they had taken the "Type II" to an
| engineering dead end. The cylinder head on it has more in common
with
| the late model Corvair than the "Type II" Look at them both and
| compare. The late model Corvair was a pretty good mill, with a few
| basic mods like the oil pump. I built many of them back when people
| were practically giving them away. I had a friend that even had a
| Corvair engine in a helicopter -- though to be honest, I never saw it
| fly.
|
| Charles
|

Point taken. It was used in the mid engine Porsche 914 also. Probably
the only reason Type I's were used for aero applications was their
availability. Later, when the type II and IV's were more available the
off roaders started using them along with the van/bus trannies instead
of the weaker type I engines and trannies. My plan was to use the type
IV instead of the type I engine. But, I lost my medical which ended all
of that.

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"Anyolmouse" wrote

It would be nice to have the turbocharged coupe (Corvair) in mint
condition Sigh

You can say that again. I've come close to going looking for one, a couple
times. What great cars they were. The turbo model was a poor man's
Corvette.

Nah, the Corvair would make the Corvette look silly, in the corners! :-)
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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|
| "Anyolmouse" wrote
|
| It would be nice to have the turbocharged coupe (Corvair) in mint
| condition Sigh
|
| You can say that again. I've come close to going looking for one, a
couple
| times. What great cars they were. The turbo model was a poor man's
| Corvette.
|
| Nah, the Corvair would make the Corvette look silly, in the corners!
:-)
| --
| Jim in NC
|
|

My low powered 1959 Bug Eyed AH Sprite made Vets look silly in the
corners. Soon as we hit a straight away, the Vet was no where to be
seen.

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"Charles Vincent" wrote

As I understand his was built under government contract. This is not his,
as I never took pictures but here are a couple corvair copters:

www.flycorvair.com/email031605.html

http://www.corvair.de/n2vzd/chelio1.jpg
http://www.corvair.de/n2vzd/chelio2.jpg
http://www.corvair.de/n2vzd/chelio3.jpg

Nice! Is that a single seater?
--
Jim in NC

"Anyolmouse" wrote

My low powered 1959 Bug Eyed AH Sprite made Vets look silly in the
corners. Soon as we hit a straight away, the Vet was no where to be
seen.

Yep, but from what my dad said (he test drove a friends turbo) when the
turbo kicks in, it puts you right back in your seat. He said at some unreal
speed, he let off of it; it finally scared him!

I'll give the Vet the top end, because I'm sure the 'Vair did not have
anywhere near the top end, but I'd like to see a 45 MPH roll on, turbo Vair
against a Vet.

Now, if you want to make sure you leave the Vet eating Corvair dust, there
was a kit available back in the day that would insure just that.

The kit turned the transaxle 180 degrees, then you bolted up a 327 Chevy
V-8, right to it. Add a van type of cover over the engine in what used to
be the back seat, add a radiator, some sway bars, other suspension mods, and
some wide rear tires, and say goodbye to everything on the road.

I saw a write up in one of the car magazines of the day, and they raved over
it. I would love to have one!

Well, this thread has wandered far enough off topic. I'll cease and all
that stuff! g
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Jim in NC

"Anyolmouse" wrote in message
...

"Charles Vincent" wrote in message
t...
| Anyolmouse wrote:
|
|
| I think a four or five hour trip in 106° temperatures running at 70
mph
| except for slowing down for a few small towns is a pretty good test.
The
| van was geared such that 85 mph was tops in speed. BTW, the 210° oil
| temp was observed when slowing down in these towns. Not while on the
| open highway. While it is true that you will be running from 65% to
75%
| power at cruise in an aircraft, you will also be at a lower OAT.
|
|
| The engine in your bus does not have a lot in common with the VW
engines
| people are flying for the most part. You indicated that you had a
"type
| IV" -- VW's admission that they had taken the "Type II" to an
| engineering dead end. The cylinder head on it has more in common
with
| the late model Corvair than the "Type II" Look at them both and
| compare. The late model Corvair was a pretty good mill, with a few
| basic mods like the oil pump. I built many of them back when people
| were practically giving them away. I had a friend that even had a
| Corvair engine in a helicopter -- though to be honest, I never saw it
| fly.
|
| Charles
|

Point taken. It was used in the mid engine Porsche 914 also. Probably
the only reason Type I's were used for aero applications was their
availability. Later, when the type II and IV's were more available the
off roaders started using them along with the van/bus trannies instead
of the weaker type I engines and trannies. My plan was to use the type
IV instead of the type I engine. But, I lost my medical which ended all
of that.

--
Anyolmouse

IIRC, the Type IV was said to be at least 50 pounds heavier than the 1600
and the exhaust was routed differently--although the exhaust routing was
much more in keeping with normal aircraft practice and probably contributed
to more efficient cooling fin placement on the heads.

In any case, they seemed to be sufficiently available--although they did
bring a higher price.

BTW, I was long gone from the dune buggy crowd by that time, and never knwe
that the Type IV had caught on with them.

Peter

"Anyolmouse" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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|
| "Anyolmouse" wrote
|
| It would be nice to have the turbocharged coupe (Corvair) in mint
| condition Sigh
|
| You can say that again. I've come close to going looking for one, a
couple
| times. What great cars they were. The turbo model was a poor man's
| Corvette.
|
| Nah, the Corvair would make the Corvette look silly, in the corners!
:-)
| --
| Jim in NC
|
|

My low powered 1959 Bug Eyed AH Sprite made Vets look silly in the
corners. Soon as we hit a straight away, the Vet was no where to be
seen.

--
Anyolmouse

Too true. :-(

Peter

Robert Padget's 1/2 VW parasol:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eps0zQP2SeE

Paul Hammond's 1600 VW parasol:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSxM-BrXnd0

takeoff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0fRqMUoUc

landinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jrHDvyJ4c

The trials and tribulations of a new motor (VW)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjqfUM5xlw

Hah. Good to have patient friends!

Those parasols look fun. I want to look them up on the 'net. What are
they?

Robert Padget's 1/2 VW parasol:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eps0zQP2SeE

Paul Hammond's 1600 VW parasol:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSxM-BrXnd0

takeoff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0fRqMUoUc

landinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jrHDvyJ4c

The trials and tribulations of a new motor (VW)...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjqfUM5xlw

Ah they are your design! Very cool!!!