Airspeed of military planes

"Darkwing Duck" wrote...

So how fast is short final in a F-14 or whatever? Always wanted to know.

125 to 140 knots, depending on airplane and landing weight.

"Darkwing Duck" wrote in message
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"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in
the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much
fast
among civilian planes.



So how fast is short final in a F-14 or whatever? Always wanted to know.

B-1B final is approx 155 +/- depending on weight.

JB

B-1B final is approx 155 +/- depending on weight.


For a 270,000# BUFF its 145 KIAS. Only one I ever memorized, actually wasn't
that difficult. BUFF flies down final at a computed "Best Flare Airspeed" + 10
KIAS. At 270K, best flare is 1/2 270 = 135, add 10 = 145 KIAS. The rest of the
weights I just look at the speed ring on the master fuel gauge.

Boy, it's a mixture of fun and depression to talk about flying when you're not
actively doing it...


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" wrote

Boy, it's a mixture of fun and depression to talk about flying when you're not
actively doing it...

Hee. Just an aside, I haven't been near an airplane (or airport) since 1993.

I've never been to a prison or jail, but from what I see from the highway,
the city airports are pretty much layers of armed men, chain-link fences,
and concrete barriers, and the people who enjoy being around them (while
sipping on a $5 cup of coffee).

Although I still like to talk about aircraft, from the good old days when you
could ride your bicycle right up to the plane and the pilot would let you spin
the turbine...

I keep thinking of those movies where people in Bulgaria, or East Germany
go to the airport, which were basically risks to the states control of the
people, and they huddled together while the "agent" looks at their "papers."

"S. Sampson" wrote:
"BUFDRVR" wrote:

Boy, it's a mixture of fun and depression to talk about flying when you're not
actively doing it...

See: http://www.marronair.com/ Granted, they're not B-52's but
like other military and airline pilots have discovered -- owning
and flying your own small, light aircraft pegs the "fun meter" every
time. Satisfaction guaranteed.

Hee. Just an aside, I haven't been near an airplane (or airport) since 1993.

I've never been to a prison or jail, but from what I see from the highway,
the city airports are pretty much layers of armed men, chain-link fences,
and concrete barriers, and the people who enjoy being around them (while
sipping on a $5 cup of coffee).

You can still find thousands of wonderful, small airports with lush,
grassy runways all across the U.S. with none of the above draconian
security measures in place. But in order to find them, ya have to be
willing to explore the Road Less Travelled and get off the beaten path
like Charles Kuralt.

Although I still like to talk about aircraft, from the good old days when you
could ride your bicycle right up to the plane and the pilot would let you spin
the turbine...

I keep thinking of those movies where people in Bulgaria, or East Germany
go to the airport, which were basically risks to the states control of the
people, and they huddled together while the "agent" looks at their "papers."

Gone flyin'

--
Mike Marron
pegasus912 at tampabay dot rr dot com

On 25 Jan 2004 13:01:13 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Boy, it's a mixture of fun and depression to talk about flying when you're not
actively doing it...

Bit like sex.


--
Steve.

Boy, it's a mixture of fun and depression to talk about flying when you're
not
actively doing it...

Bit like sex.


ROFLMAO...I could comment in any one of several ways here, but I'll choose to
bow out gracefully


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Nozzles aft, Harrier approach speed will be in the 155kt +/-range. At 20
nozzles and auto flaps(normal for IFR final), you're somewhat slower but to
be honest I don't recall the airspeed because my primary reference was
always AoA. Depending on the type of landing you intend to make, once
you're in the visual environment, you transition to a higher nozzle angle
(60-75 depending...), and in some instances, STOL flaps where the flaps
program automatically as a function of nozzle angle. "On speed" for a
fixed-nozzle slow landing is around 110kts. The *very* slow rolling
landings you occasionaly see are called rolling vertical landings -- 60 kts
ground speed is the target but the transition to that speed will usually be
over the runway, not on approach final.

"Darkwing Duck" wrote in message
...

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in
the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much
fast
among civilian planes.



So how fast is short final in a F-14 or whatever? Always wanted to know.

You're right Frijoles, in the Bone the correct answer for "What airspeed do
you fly on final" is "I don't know/care. I'm flying 7 AoA as required by
the Dash One". There is however, a chart of airspeed and gross weights that
every pilot has and, IAW the Landing Checklist, every final must have an
airspeed computed.

JB

"Frijoles" wrote in message
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Nozzles aft, Harrier approach speed will be in the 155kt +/-range. At 20
nozzles and auto flaps(normal for IFR final), you're somewhat slower but
to
be honest I don't recall the airspeed because my primary reference was
always AoA. Depending on the type of landing you intend to make, once
you're in the visual environment, you transition to a higher nozzle angle
(60-75 depending...), and in some instances, STOL flaps where the flaps
program automatically as a function of nozzle angle. "On speed" for a
fixed-nozzle slow landing is around 110kts. The *very* slow rolling
landings you occasionaly see are called rolling vertical landings -- 60
kts
ground speed is the target but the transition to that speed will usually
be
over the runway, not on approach final.

"Darkwing Duck" wrote in message
...

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have
been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in
the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much
fast
among civilian planes.



So how fast is short final in a F-14 or whatever? Always wanted to know.

"Jim Baker" wrote

You're right Frijoles, in the Bone the correct answer for "What airspeed do
you fly on final" is "I don't know/care. I'm flying 7 AoA as required by
the Dash One".

Is the AOA indicator a piece of string like Wilbur and Orville had?

There is however, a chart of airspeed and gross weights that
every pilot has and, IAW the Landing Checklist, every final must have an
airspeed computed.

That's in case the AOA indicator goes T.U. :-)