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Old March 26th 04, 04:35 AM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
Buzzer wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Buzzer" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...te=20043140104
0

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...te=20043140224
2

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...


The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only.


"A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a
declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington
case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National
Guard units in the 1970s."

Another lie?


Another misinterpretation.

The HRP regulations were enforced for nuclear-capable aircraft, as the
next paragraph shows:

"'They were to be rigorously imposed,' Andersen said. 'If the
responsible officers saw violations as set forth in the regulations, it
would be required of them to remove the suspected officer from access to
nuclear-capable weapons and equipment.'²

No nukes, no HRP.

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Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.
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Old March 26th 04, 03:02 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Buzzer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Buzzer" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:



http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...Date=200431401

040


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...date=200431402

242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...


The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only.


"A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a
declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington
case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National
Guard units in the 1970s."

Another lie?


Probably. Otherwise there would be a name.


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Old March 27th 04, 11:03 PM
Alan Minyard
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 02:43:47 GMT, Buzzer wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Buzzer" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...


The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only.


"A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a
declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington
case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National
Guard units in the 1970s."

Another lie?


You really have no idea what the PRP programs are about, do you?

Hint: It goes way beyond "human reliability rules".

Al Minyard
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Old March 28th 04, 03:32 AM
Buzzer
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:03:16 -0600, Alan Minyard
wrote:

"A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a
declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington
case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National
Guard units in the 1970s."

Another lie?


You really have no idea what the PRP programs are about, do you?


I only spent about ten years under HRP for some reason at various
times from 1963 to 1982.

Hint: It goes way beyond "human reliability rules".


Not really. It isn't that complicated. What does seem to be
complicated is for people to realize back in the paranoid days of the
Cold War there were basically two ways of operating - war mode and
training mode. In war mode people might be operating out of their main
job (AFSC in the AF) as an augmentee. Aircraft might even deploy or
recover at other bases. Just because something wasn't done at the
normal everyday base doesn't mean it might not be done at the base
deployed to or recovered at. Actually I am surprised HRP wasn't a
requirement for certain guard personnel before 1972. Or to meet the
requirements at least in case they might deploy to another base where
they might carry a nuclear weapon. Lot of mights and ifs, but...



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Old March 26th 04, 12:40 AM
Kevin Brooks
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"Buzzer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:



http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...


Non-starter. How could they use PRP against him when (a) the only nuclear
round the F-102 could carry was phased out of service during the
*preceeding* year, and (b) his unit was by then a *training* unit no longer
tasked with alert duty? I'll side with Ed on this one--another example of
desperate journalists who are clueles about the military trying to
manufacture something.

Brooks




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Old March 26th 04, 01:27 AM
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Buzzer wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:



by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:



http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...



According to the second article:

"The air-to-air missiles in the jets were intended to destroy Soviet
bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles in midair before they
could strike the continental United States."

Whatever the truth here, I find it difficult to believe they'd discharge
ANYBODY who could shoot down an ICBM...


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Old March 26th 04, 10:25 AM
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost
no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National
Guard.


Surely you jest. Everyone knows that he was abducted by a black
helicopter from Mexico!

There's a mystery only if you want to see one.
www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm

I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the
really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present
Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican
attack machine".)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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see the Warbird's Forum at
www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com
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Old March 26th 04, 05:31 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
Cub Driver wrote:

I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the
really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present
Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican
attack machine".)


The problem is that all of the worst stuff about Kerry is the stuff he's
actually saying and doing.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.
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Old March 27th 04, 03:53 AM
Miles Long
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Cub Driver wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:


Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost
no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National
Guard.



Surely you jest. Everyone knows that he was abducted by a black
helicopter from Mexico!

There's a mystery only if you want to see one.
www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm

I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the
really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present
Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican
attack machine".)

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (requires authentication)

see the Warbird's Forum at
www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com


CD:

1. Didn't you notice the name of the newsgroup?
2. Of the 51,282 posts on my news server, the majority (72%) attempt to
deride Dean, Edwards, Kerry, Clinton (Bill & Hillary) and Gore; some
even attempting to blame them for everything from mopery & dopery on the
high seas to blame for killing Cock Robin.

That's a lot of work from those who are convinced GW's going to win the
November election (how's that go? Me doth thinkest thou protestith too
much?). Please, either do the math, read the content or quit lying,
whichever is easier.

Miles "That's the Best" Long

 




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