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Buzzer wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Buzzer" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: by James Ridgeway A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...te=20043140104 0 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...te=20043140224 2 Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the guard back then... The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only. "A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National Guard units in the 1970s." Another lie? Another misinterpretation. The HRP regulations were enforced for nuclear-capable aircraft, as the next paragraph shows: "'They were to be rigorously imposed,' Andersen said. 'If the responsible officers saw violations as set forth in the regulations, it would be required of them to remove the suspected officer from access to nuclear-capable weapons and equipment.'² No nukes, no HRP. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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![]() "Buzzer" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Buzzer" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: by James Ridgeway A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...Date=200431401 040 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...date=200431402 242 Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the guard back then... The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only. "A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National Guard units in the 1970s." Another lie? Probably. Otherwise there would be a name. |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 02:43:47 GMT, Buzzer wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:05:28 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Buzzer" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: by James Ridgeway A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242 Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the guard back then... The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only. "A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National Guard units in the 1970s." Another lie? You really have no idea what the PRP programs are about, do you? Hint: It goes way beyond "human reliability rules". Al Minyard |
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:03:16 -0600, Alan Minyard
wrote: "A second previously unreleased document obtained by the newspaper, a declassified Air Force Inspector General's report on the Washington case, states that human reliability rules applied to all Air National Guard units in the 1970s." Another lie? You really have no idea what the PRP programs are about, do you? I only spent about ten years under HRP for some reason at various times from 1963 to 1982. Hint: It goes way beyond "human reliability rules". Not really. It isn't that complicated. What does seem to be complicated is for people to realize back in the paranoid days of the Cold War there were basically two ways of operating - war mode and training mode. In war mode people might be operating out of their main job (AFSC in the AF) as an augmentee. Aircraft might even deploy or recover at other bases. Just because something wasn't done at the normal everyday base doesn't mean it might not be done at the base deployed to or recovered at. Actually I am surprised HRP wasn't a requirement for certain guard personnel before 1972. Or to meet the requirements at least in case they might deploy to another base where they might carry a nuclear weapon. Lot of mights and ifs, but... |
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![]() "Buzzer" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: by James Ridgeway A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242 Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the guard back then... Non-starter. How could they use PRP against him when (a) the only nuclear round the F-102 could carry was phased out of service during the *preceeding* year, and (b) his unit was by then a *training* unit no longer tasked with alert duty? I'll side with Ed on this one--another example of desperate journalists who are clueles about the military trying to manufacture something. Brooks |
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![]() Buzzer wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: by James Ridgeway A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040 http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242 Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the guard back then... According to the second article: "The air-to-air missiles in the jets were intended to destroy Soviet bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles in midair before they could strike the continental United States." Whatever the truth here, I find it difficult to believe they'd discharge ANYBODY who could shoot down an ICBM... |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote: Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National Guard. Surely you jest. Everyone knows that he was abducted by a black helicopter from Mexico! There's a mystery only if you want to see one. www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican attack machine".) all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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Cub Driver wrote: I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican attack machine".) The problem is that all of the worst stuff about Kerry is the stuff he's actually saying and doing. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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Cub Driver wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National Guard. Surely you jest. Everyone knows that he was abducted by a black helicopter from Mexico! There's a mystery only if you want to see one. www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm I am fascinated by the trolls on this newsgroup. It seems that all the really nutty stuff is anti-Bush. What does that say about the present Democratic candidate? (The same one who moans about the "Republican attack machine".) all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com CD: 1. Didn't you notice the name of the newsgroup? 2. Of the 51,282 posts on my news server, the majority (72%) attempt to deride Dean, Edwards, Kerry, Clinton (Bill & Hillary) and Gore; some even attempting to blame them for everything from mopery & dopery on the high seas to blame for killing Cock Robin. That's a lot of work from those who are convinced GW's going to win the November election (how's that go? Me doth thinkest thou protestith too much?). Please, either do the math, read the content or quit lying, whichever is easier. Miles "That's the Best" Long |
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