This is what the D-Day was for...

Clinton lied, nobody died.

Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands of
terrorists over the years

Amazing that people actually have such short memories. Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.

Pete

AQ attacked us first in 93, serious action was not taking until 10/01. Maybe
if there had been more decisive actions after the multiple AQ attacks, maybe
9/11 could have been prevented.

Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

"Pete" wrote in message
...

"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.

Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands
of
terrorists over the years

Nor does it include the nearly 100 in Waco, nor the ones in Somalia, nor the
3000 that died in 9/11 because Bubba didn't have the balls to do his primary
job for his entire term and considered the Presidency an ego/power trip
rather than a major responsibility. (Did any other US President aspire to
the job from the time he was 14 years old?)

It doesn;t even take into the account those who died fighting forest fires
because of Bubba's nose up the environmentalnut's ass.


Amazing that people actually have such short memories.

Or such convenient memories?

Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.

Actions have consequences, and not only _direct_ consequences. Statists of
the liberal sort can't (won't ?) comprehend that.

Jay,

This bizarre post casts a sliver of light on the mind-set that created (and
continues to create) the terrorists


Oh, bull! Your comment is in the line of the worst of the "be with us or be
our enemy" rethoric Bush used after 9/11. Just look at Abu Graib (sp?) to see
where that got you (as a nation, not personally). THAT'S what is creating
terrorists (and I don't mean the people that have committed the war crimes
there, although they could be counted in)!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Tom Sixkiller opined

"Pete" wrote in message
...

"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.

Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands
of
terrorists over the years

Nor does it include the nearly 100 in Waco, nor the ones in Somalia, nor the
3000 that died in 9/11 because Bubba didn't have the balls to do his primary
job for his entire term and considered the Presidency an ego/power trip
rather than a major responsibility. (Did any other US President aspire to
the job from the time he was 14 years old?)

It doesn;t even take into the account those who died fighting forest fires
because of Bubba's nose up the environmentalnut's ass.

Or those Serbs, and a couple of Chinese diplomats in the Kosovo bombing
campaign.


Amazing that people actually have such short memories.

Or such convenient memories?

Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.

Actions have consequences, and not only _direct_ consequences. Statists of
the liberal sort can't (won't ?) comprehend that.







-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

David Reinhart wrote in message ...
And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay
home and let the vets have their day.

Almost half a million won't be here next year.

That sounds fair. The European derived races will be halved in less
than 50 years thanks to their victory.

Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.



Dave Reinhart


Shiver Me Timbers wrote:

HECTOP wrote:

I know this is gonna start a riot, but...

Why would it start a riot.

Sad reflection perhaps, but prudent, logical, common sense
in todays political climate.

"The Enlightenment" wrote in message
om...
David Reinhart wrote in message
...
And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay
home and let the vets have their day.

Almost half a million won't be here next year.

That sounds fair. The European derived races will be halved in less
than 50 years thanks to their victory.

Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.

I think I'm going to be sick...

Michael

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:31:07 GMT, "Michael 182"
wrote:


Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.

I think I'm going to be sick...


What did you expect, our friend here is a well known australian neo nazi.



greg

--
"vying with Platt for the largest gap
between capability and self perception"

Why is it so twisted to demand that everyone should be held accountable for
their actions ? No matter where they are from ?
An illigal war was after all started with (known) false accusations and ca.
10K people has been killed as a result. Bush should be held accountable !



"Jay Honeck" skrev i melding
news:866vc.32406$eY2.23666@attbi_s02...
They should after all be arrested... but in the real world this would
start
WWIII...

What a disturbingly warped view of the world.

This bizarre post casts a sliver of light on the mind-set that created
(and
continues to create) the terrorists -- better than any deliberate
explanation ever could.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:18:41 -0400, "HECTOP" wrote:

I know this is gonna start a riot, but...

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-dday31.html

France pledges to shoot down private pilots in D-Day air space
May 31, 2004
BY BEN FENTON [Ad]

ARROMANCHES, France -- Private pilots who stray into Normandy air space
during the 60th anniversary of D-Day next weekend will be shot down, French
officials said Sunday.
With at least 16 heads of state, including President Bush, attending the
ceremonies, organizers are guarding particularly against an al-Qaida attack
from the air.
It is one of the biggest security exercises in Europe since the war.
An enormous network of radar equipment has been stretched between Deauville
and Cherbourg, with early warning aircraft already in the skies.
The aircraft will be joined this week by small, remote-controlled drones.
Advanced Crotale anti-aircraft missiles have been primed, and two squadrons
of Mirage 2000 fighters are stationed nearby.
The French ministry of defense has spared no expense. It has established a
temporary air base at Carpiquet, outside the city of Caen, as the hub of its
defenses.
There, more than 800 soldiers will maintain round-the-clock surveillance,
backed by more than 50 military helicopters.
A spokesman for the 120-acre camp said: "The dangers are multiple, from a
hijacked airliner being crashed into the stands at the main international
ceremony at Arromanches to a tiny bomb being detonated remotely.
"But we are stretching an impenetrable fabric of protection above Normandy."
At sea, fishermen and pleasure craft have been banned from the Seine Bay
that stretches along the beaches code named Utah, Omaha, Gold, Juno and
Sword on June 6, 1944.
A French carrier, Charles de Gaulle, and an American carrier, George
Washington, will be patrolling the bay, which will also be swept for mines.
On land, more than 9,000 French troops are arriving this week, supplementing
the 6,300 gendarmes and 2,300 police officers already on duty.
Arromanches' 534 residents have been told that they must either stay indoors
throughout next Sunday or leave the area.

Daily Telegraph


HECTOP
PP-ASEL-IA
http://www.maxho.com
maxho_at_maxho.com


You mean the French surrender to Al-Q is not working??? What a surprise!!!!!!!

Al Minyard

On Mon, 31 May 2004 20:35:35 +0000 (UTC), (G Farris) wrote:

CORRECTION :
After posting the previous message, I went back to double-check my facts.
I should have done it before, because I was wrong. There is a very specific
NOTAM, published 6 May that details several Temporary Restricted Areas and a
few Temporary Prohibited Areas. There are rules for avoidance, and even rules
for interception if one is found in the wrong place at the wrong time. It
doesn't say they'll shoot you down, of course, but it does strongly imply that
it's in your interest to comply meticulously. They also say infractions could
be fined 15000 to 45000 Euros and up to six months in jail, plus impounding
the aircraft.

I have mentioned to several pilots over the past days that I was surprised not
to see any NOTAMS for those days - They must have been shaking their heads
thinking "What's this poor fool on about . . ."

Anyway, my apologies for the incorrect information.
For any who want to see the NOTAM, it's here :
http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv....2004_45_FR.pdf

G Faris

I guess the French surrender to Al-Q is not working out as they had planned.

Al Minyard