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On 4/7/2021 3:45 PM, Soartech wrote:
I just got a reply from the SSA (Alexa Owens) and she apoligized and sent me this link: https://www.ssa.org/my-account/lost-password/ which looks identical to me to the one they sent. But somehow, this one does not have the Tracking problem the first one had. Maybe they shut off the tracking requirement?? A link in a web page has two parts: the visible text label, and the (invisible) URL it links to. A link, such as that in the email from the SSA, that shows the URL is supposedly leads to, actually has two URLs: the visible one (sometimes misleading), and the invisible one it actually links to. The reason you may get warnings about "icptrack.com" is that the SSA chose to send these mass emails by using a service, "iContact". It, like MailChimp, ConstantContact, etc, converts every link to a trackable one. In this case the visible URL is: https://www.ssa.org/my-account/lost-password/ but the actual URL it leads to is: https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay...gTymqcTLusKni6... (lots more gobbledigook). In theory your clicking on such a link can be tracked, although I doubt in this case the SSA will use that feature of the iContact service. I hate such links because I don't want to be tracked, and also you don't know where it is really taking you, after the tracking bit. But in this case you can copy and paste the visible URL from that email into your browser and get to that page without being tracked. |
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I've been using the Brave browser for the past 3-4 months. I just
opened a new tab and was told that 65,786 trackers and ads have been blocked. I still get a lot of spam; how it gets past my spam blocker, I don't know, but I'm going to have a look at spam assassin. Dan 5J On 4/7/21 2:37 PM, Moshe Braner wrote: On 4/7/2021 3:45 PM, Soartech wrote: I just got a reply from the SSA (Alexa Owens) and she apoligized and sent me this link: https://www.ssa.org/my-account/lost-password/ which looks identical to me to the one they sent. But somehow, this one does not have the TrackingÂ* problem the first one had. Maybe they shut off the tracking requirement?? A link in a web page has two parts: the visible text label, and the (invisible) URL it links to.Â* A link, such as that in the email from the SSA, that shows the URL is supposedly leads to, actually has two URLs: the visible one (sometimes misleading), and the invisible one it actually links to. The reason you may get warnings about "icptrack.com" is that the SSA chose to send these mass emails by using a service, "iContact".Â* It, like MailChimp, ConstantContact, etc, converts every link to a trackable one.Â* In this case the visible URL is: Â*Â*Â* https://www.ssa.org/my-account/lost-password/ but the actual URL it leads to is: https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay...gTymqcTLusKni6... Â*(lots more gobbledigook). In theory your clicking on such a link can be tracked, although I doubt in this case the SSA will use that feature of the iContact service. I hate such links because I don't want to be tracked, and also you don't know where it is really taking you, after the tracking bit. But in this case you can copy and paste the visible URL from that email into your browser and get to that page without being tracked. |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:05:51 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote:
I've been using the Brave browser for the past 3-4 months. I just opened a new tab and was told that 65,786 trackers and ads have been blocked. I still get a lot of spam; how it gets past my spam blocker, I don't know, but I'm going to have a look at spam assassin. What does your mail chain look like? I ask because Spamassassin is probably not a good fit if you're just running a mail reader on a Windows system. On the other hand, your ISP may be running Spamassassin and filtering out obvious spam, i.e. mail from a known spammer (there are lists of these...). SA is designed to handle quite high mail volumes and is usually put into the path messages follow through a mail server, something like this: |-- mail reader ISP --mail in--Mail server --|-- mail reader | Y |-- mail reader | | | +-- spam - quarantine | | V ^ Spamassassin All SA does is to inspect an email and assign it a score by applying a set of rules to its content. The filter looks at the spam score and conventionally says anything with a score of less than 5 is ham and anything over 5 is spam. The filter is separate because everybody has different ideas of what to do with spam: some bin spam, others block spam senders, while others treat it as undeliverable mail and return it to the sender. My filter puts spam in quarantine for a week and sends me a daily report of any new spam so I can look at it in case it was misclassified as spam. In this case I can fish it out of quarantine before it gets deleted. Other people, who are usually UNIX or Linux users simply pass everything to their user's mailreaders. These use a program, procmail, to look at the spam score and use that to decide whether the message is shown to the user or binned. This is useful in a business where different folks get different mail streams and have differing spam tolerances. Sorry about the length of that, but mail handling can be quite complex and its not necessary to understand much of this stuff unless you run your own mail server - and nobody who just uses an Apple or Windows PC, iPad or phone will be running a mail server. I hope its useful info. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:05:51 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote: I've been using the Brave browser for the past 3-4 months. I just opened a new tab and was told that 65,786 trackers and ads have been blocked. I still get a lot of spam; how it gets past my spam blocker, I don't know, but I'm going to have a look at spam assassin. What does your mail chain look like? I ask because Spamassassin is probably not a good fit if you're just running a mail reader on a Windows system. On the other hand, your ISP may be running Spamassassin and filtering out obvious spam, i.e. mail from a known spammer (there are lists of these...). SA is designed to handle quite high mail volumes and is usually put into the path messages follow through a mail server, something like this: |-- mail reader ISP --mail in--Mail server --|-- mail reader | Y |-- mail reader | | | +-- spam - quarantine | | V ^ Spamassassin All SA does is to inspect an email and assign it a score by applying a set of rules to its content. The filter looks at the spam score and conventionally says anything with a score of less than 5 is ham and anything over 5 is spam. The filter is separate because everybody has different ideas of what to do with spam: some bin spam, others block spam senders, while others treat it as undeliverable mail and return it to the sender. My filter puts spam in quarantine for a week and sends me a daily report of any new spam so I can look at it in case it was misclassified as spam. In this case I can fish it out of quarantine before it gets deleted. Other people, who are usually UNIX or Linux users simply pass everything to their user's mailreaders. These use a program, procmail, to look at the spam score and use that to decide whether the message is shown to the user or binned. This is useful in a business where different folks get different mail streams and have differing spam tolerances. Sorry about the length of that, but mail handling can be quite complex and its not necessary to understand much of this stuff unless you run your own mail server - and nobody who just uses an Apple or Windows PC, iPad or phone will be running a mail server. I hope its useful info. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org Just got an email reply from SSA. They said to hover over the Racing tab and the Tracker should appear. Well when I use Chrome the sub-menu does not appear. When I use Explorer the sub-menu does appear but crashes when I click on Tracker and I get a message that it is not supported and to use Chrome. WTF! Dan |
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On 4/7/21 1:45 PM, Soartech wrote:
I just got a reply from the SSA (Alexa Owens) and she apoligized and sent me this link: https://www.ssa.org/my-account/lost-password/ which looks identical to me to the one they sent. But somehow, this one does not have the Tracking problem the first one had. Maybe they shut off the tracking requirement?? I didn't get the link originally, but today more email from SSA got through. Had the same redirect of the link for tracking. Reading email with Thunderbird, you can hover over a link and it shows the hidden information, which usually indicates a scam of some sort when used. -Dave |
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Thanks for trying, Martin, but that's way over my head. I'm a new user
of Linux (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, about 3-4 months), and I've been using Thunderbird for several years. I looked at installing Spam Assassin on my system but it was too in-depth for me. Dan 5J On 4/7/21 4:44 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:05:51 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote: I've been using the Brave browser for the past 3-4 months. I just opened a new tab and was told that 65,786 trackers and ads have been blocked. I still get a lot of spam; how it gets past my spam blocker, I don't know, but I'm going to have a look at spam assassin. What does your mail chain look like? I ask because Spamassassin is probably not a good fit if you're just running a mail reader on a Windows system. On the other hand, your ISP may be running Spamassassin and filtering out obvious spam, i.e. mail from a known spammer (there are lists of these...). SA is designed to handle quite high mail volumes and is usually put into the path messages follow through a mail server, something like this: |-- mail reader ISP --mail in--Mail server --|-- mail reader | Y |-- mail reader | | | +-- spam - quarantine | | V ^ Spamassassin All SA does is to inspect an email and assign it a score by applying a set of rules to its content. The filter looks at the spam score and conventionally says anything with a score of less than 5 is ham and anything over 5 is spam. The filter is separate because everybody has different ideas of what to do with spam: some bin spam, others block spam senders, while others treat it as undeliverable mail and return it to the sender. My filter puts spam in quarantine for a week and sends me a daily report of any new spam so I can look at it in case it was misclassified as spam. In this case I can fish it out of quarantine before it gets deleted. Other people, who are usually UNIX or Linux users simply pass everything to their user's mailreaders. These use a program, procmail, to look at the spam score and use that to decide whether the message is shown to the user or binned. This is useful in a business where different folks get different mail streams and have differing spam tolerances. Sorry about the length of that, but mail handling can be quite complex and its not necessary to understand much of this stuff unless you run your own mail server - and nobody who just uses an Apple or Windows PC, iPad or phone will be running a mail server. I hope its useful info. |
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2021 08:55:22 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote:
Thanks for trying, Martin, but that's way over my head. I'm a new user of Linux (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, about 3-4 months), and I've been using Thunderbird for several years. I looked at installing Spam Assassin on my system but it was too in-depth for me. Understood. I've not used Thunderbird for several years, so don't remember whether it can use SA spam scores or not, but what I was trying to show is that installing SA is not a trivial exercise and that it usually works best if you're running your own local mailserver. These days I'm using Evolution as my mailreader. It has a built-in appointments diary and a todo list - I need both! -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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I got the second e-mail about the password reset. try to use my original password. No go. Not Strong enough. Is some evil hacker waiting to use my weak password to log in and read the Johnson test flight articles without paying. Or maybe they want to sign up for a contest under my name. What F*cking Bull****! maybe I don't need the SSA. |
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I think that the reason for the extra password security (and maybe the two passwords) has to do with the privacy issue of we can see names and addresses of members, and/or, ordering and credit cards.
To fulfill the 12 character password requirement I just used my old password twice! Simple! John (OHM) |
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On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 6:29:16 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:05:51 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote: I've been using the Brave browser for the past 3-4 months. I just opened a new tab and was told that 65,786 trackers and ads have been blocked. I still get a lot of spam; how it gets past my spam blocker, I don't know, but I'm going to have a look at spam assassin. What does your mail chain look like? I ask because Spamassassin is probably not a good fit if you're just running a mail reader on a Windows system. On the other hand, your ISP may be running Spamassassin and filtering out obvious spam, i.e. mail from a known spammer (there are lists of these...). SA is designed to handle quite high mail volumes and is usually put into the path messages follow through a mail server, something like this: |-- mail reader ISP --mail in--Mail server --|-- mail reader | Y |-- mail reader | | | +-- spam - quarantine | | V ^ Spamassassin All SA does is to inspect an email and assign it a score by applying a set of rules to its content. The filter looks at the spam score and conventionally says anything with a score of less than 5 is ham and anything over 5 is spam. The filter is separate because everybody has different ideas of what to do with spam: some bin spam, others block spam senders, while others treat it as undeliverable mail and return it to the sender. My filter puts spam in quarantine for a week and sends me a daily report of any new spam so I can look at it in case it was misclassified as spam. In this case I can fish it out of quarantine before it gets deleted. Other people, who are usually UNIX or Linux users simply pass everything to their user's mailreaders. These use a program, procmail, to look at the spam score and use that to decide whether the message is shown to the user or binned. This is useful in a business where different folks get different mail streams and have differing spam tolerances. Sorry about the length of that, but mail handling can be quite complex and its not necessary to understand much of this stuff unless you run your own mail server - and nobody who just uses an Apple or Windows PC, iPad or phone will be running a mail server. I hope its useful info. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org Just got an email reply from SSA. They said to hover over the Racing tab and the Tracker should appear. Well when I use Chrome the sub-menu does not appear. When I use Explorer the sub-menu does appear but crashes when I click on Tracker and I get a message that it is not supported and to use Chrome. WTF! Dan Tried again and SUCCESS. The sailplane tracker DOES work using Firefox as the browser. No need to log into SSA as a member. Does NOT work in Chrome or Explorer. |
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