TV Interview With Pilot From ADIZ Incident

"buttman" wrote in message
oups.com...
So you're saying that since I now have my FAA liscense, I am no longer
allowed to sit back and enjoy the scenery as a passenger while a friend
of mine acts as PIC?

I'd enjoy the scenery, but make a comment if my friend is about to do
something really stupid.

("John T" wrote)
[snip]
The next thing we'll see is him (through the silk suit on his right)
sueing Cessna for inadequate guidance systems on his 40 year-old 152.
And winning!


Cessna 152 was introduced in 1978 - 27 years ago.

No further nits Your Honor.


Montblack

"Guillermo" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Guillermo" wrote

Now, I wonder what would have happened in case both people had been
pilots.
Will they suspend both? Technically only one of the pilots is the PIC,
and
I've been told that it is a good idea to agree on that before a flight
(who
is the PIC), but I wonder who would they charge in that case?

It seems to me that charges could also be filed, for letting a non pilot
manipulate the controls. Since the 70 year old is not a CFI, the
student
is
just the same as a non pilot, and if he (the student) was PIC, he would
be
in violation for taking a passenger with him. Both of these are against
regs, aren't they?

Where does it say that the PIC has to be manipulating the controls?
Student cannot be PIC, but can manipulate the controls, right?

Anybody can manipulate the controls.

On 25 May 2005 18:01:55 -0700, "buttman" wrote:

So you're saying that since I now have my FAA liscense, I am no longer
allowed to sit back and enjoy the scenery as a passenger while a friend
of mine acts as PIC?

If all you were doing is sitting back and enjoying the ride, yes - you
are allowed to just sit back and enjoy the ride. However, in this
case the other guy was at the controls and flying the aircraft. If I
was going somewhere and was at the controls I would expect, regardless
of who was PIC, to have some basic idea of where I was going and the
route used to get there and not just rely on the other guy to say
something along the lines of "head thataway for a while, I'll let you
know."

In article .com,
says...


So you're saying that since I now have my FAA liscense, I am no longer
allowed to sit back and enjoy the scenery as a passenger while a friend
of mine acts as PIC?


What you may not do, apparently, is have a couple of beers while waiting
for your friend to show up, then sit back and enjoy the ride as your
friend acts as PIC. Even if you have no intention of assuming any role
in the planning or execution of the flight.

Others here may say I'm wrong here - and I may be - but there have been
some recent cases of certificate action against pilot passengers that I
have found surprising.

G Faris