Raptor vs Eagle

Recently, Icebound posted:

Major (world) war will be averted only so long as nations grit their
teeth and abide within some global framework, bad as that may be, but
encouraging others to do likewise.

When nations claim to be somehow above that, and act unilaterally,
others are also encouraged to do likewise.

You may be right...in that "I don't think its possible..." to avoid
"wars". But the goal has to be to avoid *world* wars. We managed to
avoid that for the past sixty years...

What has changed to have us be sliding into it at this very moment?

Asked, and answered by your own writing. ;-)

Neil

Neil Gould wrote:
Recently, Icebound posted:

Major (world) war will be averted only so long as nations grit their
teeth and abide within some global framework, bad as that may be, but
encouraging others to do likewise.

When nations claim to be somehow above that, and act unilaterally,
others are also encouraged to do likewise.

You may be right...in that "I don't think its possible..." to avoid
"wars". But the goal has to be to avoid *world* wars. We managed to
avoid that for the past sixty years...

What has changed to have us be sliding into it at this very moment?


Asked, and answered by your own writing. ;-)


You and I, sitting at our desks, are not going to start a world war.
But when get get together with a bunch of our friends and decide how
things "should" be and impose them on the rest of the world, we are
walking down the path to a world war. So having a forum where countries
can air their views doesn't help.

And, ignoring Korea and Viet Nam because they are not "world" wars is
simply playing with words. Terrorism is building, it is worldwide in
scope and no bunch of politicians is going to cope with it. Terrorism
is a decentralized emotional attack rather than a political dispute such
as a land boundary.

But the goal has to be to avoid *world* wars. We managed to avoid that for
the past sixty years...

.... which is nothing in the context of world history.

Jose
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Icebound wrote:


"Stubby" wrote in message
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Blueskies wrote:
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There was an allusion to us all living together peacefully without war.
von Clausewicz wrote that war is the ultimate resolution of political
disputes. If you can figure a way to get rid of politics and
politicians, maybe we can avoid war, but I don't think that is possible.

Actually, it is the other way around. If you get *more* politicians
talking, you *avoid* war.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle8772.htm

Major (world) war is the result of backroom alliances, not political
rhetoric. The mentality that I ask my buddy to join me in a barroom brawl
no matter what, whether or not it is good for the bar, him, his family,
the neighbourhood, etc.

Politicians, even the woefully corrupt and inefficient United Nations,
usually manage to remain in a war of words instead of knives. Unless they
have allowed themselves to be seduced into using their forum for backroom
conspiracy instead of political argument.

Major (world) war will be averted only so long as nations grit their teeth
and abide within some global framework, bad as that may be, but
encouraging others to do likewise.

When nations claim to be somehow above that, and act unilaterally, others
are also encouraged to do likewise.

You may be right...in that "I don't think its possible..." to avoid
"wars".
But the goal has to be to avoid *world* wars. We managed to avoid that
for the past sixty years...

What has changed to have us be sliding into it at this very moment?




the oil situation, for one thing. Increasing demand from China and India.
Fairly level production levels forom the ME.


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Jay Honeck wrote:

I just hope it isn't the last manned fighter aircraft...

Back in the 60s, Bill Mauldin did a lovely cartoon. A jet pilot is sitting on
the wheel of his F-104 despondently reading an article claiming that fighter
aircraft will soon be automated. Joe (one of Mauldin's WW II characters - an
infantryman) walks up and say "Don't let it get to ya, bub. I been obsolete fer
20 years."

I think that cartoon still applies.

George Patterson
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