ATC subtle hints

Depending on what might be in the hidden spaces, you could
go the jail for a long time if the dope smuggler left even a
small bag of heroin or such in a fender or under the seats.

As a note, whenever the police start a new daily shift,
their car is fully inspected so that any contraband found
can be pinned on the arrestee they just had in the car.



"Emily" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| A pre-purchase inspection should be as thorough as an
| annual, all the holes and spaces should be examined for
| corrosion, damage and left-over forgotten drugs. This
| applies to airplanes and cars equally.
|
| Does this mean I need to brave the rain and go inspect my
new car for
| left over drugs? Problem is, as a law abiding citizen, I
wouldn't know
| where to start looking. I put stuff I carry around in my
car in the trunk.

Jim Macklin wrote:
Depending on what might be in the hidden spaces, you could
go the jail for a long time if the dope smuggler left even a
small bag of heroin or such in a fender or under the seats.

As I pointed out, I wouldn't even know where to look. I've never broken
a law in my life (administrative stuff doesn't count!)

"kontiki" wrote in message
...
I really get a kick out of how subtle ATC can be sometimes in giving those
little "hints" to some pilots. I've heard lots of interesting ones over
time
that have given me a chuckle while flying along. It got me to thinking
about
what some of the more funny ones you guys have heard over the years.

Today, right after being cleared for takeoff, and while rolling onto on
Rwy 36
at SAV I got a traffic advisory from tower about a 757 on a 3 mile final
to Rwy 9.
(for me, that's the lowest altitude I have ever been when receiveing a
traffic advisory!). I responded with "38H is looking" and made an
expeditious
take-off and got a good glance at the big airplane on the way in maybe a
mile
out as I crossed the intersection.

Wish I could recall a few of the more funny ones, but telling stories is
really
not my forte, sorta like you have to be there.

The special VFR hint:

The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when the Private Pilot
calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with Hotel...".
The guy working ground comes back with "Weather 1500broken, 2 1/2 in
fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I can do for you?


Al G

Our airport has parallel runways. one is 7200x150 and the other is 5000x75.
Tower: N#, clear to land 17 right.
Transient: Clear to land 17 right.
A little while later.
Tower: N#, clear to land 17 RIGHT.
Transient: Clear to land 17 right??
Tower: N#, that's the short runway.

GeorgeC

Al G wrote:
snip

The special VFR hint:

The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when the Private Pilot
calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with Hotel...".
The guy working ground comes back with "Weather 1500broken, 2 1/2 in
fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I can do for you?

I once sat behind a guy in a 172 who just didn't get it. Ground finally
told him to shut down and go inside and ask someone what it meant when
he asked if there was anything special he could do. It was freaking
painful to hear.

"Emily" wrote:

The special VFR hint:

The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when the Private Pilot
calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with Hotel...".
The guy working ground comes back with "Weather 1500broken, 2 1/2 in
fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I can do for you?

I once sat behind a guy in a 172 who just didn't get it. Ground finally
told him to shut down and go inside and ask someone what it meant when he
asked if there was anything special he could do.


If I were a controller, there's no way in hell I would do this.

Why would I want my voice on tape helping some clueless twit figure out how
to kill himself?

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"Emily" wrote:

The special VFR hint:

The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when the Private Pilot
calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with Hotel...".
The guy working ground comes back with "Weather 1500broken, 2 1/2 in
fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I can do for you?

I once sat behind a guy in a 172 who just didn't get it. Ground finally
told him to shut down and go inside and ask someone what it meant when he
asked if there was anything special he could do.


If I were a controller, there's no way in hell I would do this.

Why would I want my voice on tape helping some clueless twit figure out
how to kill himself?

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


Yea, you are probably right. I was there, and the weather wasn't that
bad, and was VERY local. 1 mile in any direction, and you would be out of
it. It was clearing after morning fog, so the forecasts were good also. Any
of my graduates would have been long gone, but then I teach the AIM pretty
heavily.

Al G

Dan Luke wrote:
"Emily" wrote:

The special VFR hint:

The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when the Private Pilot
calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with Hotel...".
The guy working ground comes back with "Weather 1500broken, 2 1/2 in
fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I can do for you?
I once sat behind a guy in a 172 who just didn't get it. Ground finally
told him to shut down and go inside and ask someone what it meant when he
asked if there was anything special he could do.


If I were a controller, there's no way in hell I would do this.

Why would I want my voice on tape helping some clueless twit figure out how
to kill himself?

Maybe the controllers here can clue us in, but that's why they can't
offer a special VFR clearance. After all, if they ask if there's
anything special they can do, it's hard to prove they meant to hint at a
special VFR clearance.

I was leaving IFR in my above story, btw...no way would I have gone VFR.

I was in the tower at RVS [Tulsa Jones] . The weather was
zero-zero, we could look down from the tower cab and just
see airplanes on the ramp directly below. Anything more
than 150 feet away was gone. Tops in the area were being
reported as about 3000 feet. It was below commercial
take-off minimums for many operators.

We heard an airplane start their engine just below the tower
at a flight school ramp. Figured it was a mechanic. Then
the tower gets a call, "Cessna xxxxx ready to taxi VFR."
Ground says, "the airport is below VFR minimums, what are
your intentions?"
"How about a special?"
"The control zone [it was a while ago] is below SVFR, what
are your intentions?"

"I guess I'll go get a cup of coffee and check the
forecast."



"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
|
| "Emily" wrote:
|
| The special VFR hint:
|
| The weather is 1500 broken, and 2 1/2 miles when
the Private Pilot
| calls ground and announces "Taxi to the active with
Hotel...".
| The guy working ground comes back with "Weather
1500broken, 2 1/2 in
| fog, the field is IFR, is there anything "SPECIAL" I
can do for you?
|
| I once sat behind a guy in a 172 who just didn't get it.
Ground finally
| told him to shut down and go inside and ask someone what
it meant when he
| asked if there was anything special he could do.
|
|
| If I were a controller, there's no way in hell I would do
this.
|
| Why would I want my voice on tape helping some clueless
twit figure out how
| to kill himself?
|
| --
| Dan
| C172RG at BFM
|
|

If I were a controller, there's no way in hell I would do this.

Why would I want my voice on tape helping some clueless twit figure out
how to kill himself?

I was leaving HPN one morning. It was one of those funny days where there
was no practical impediment to visual navigation, but a few oddly placed
low clouds in just the wrong places force the tower to declare the field
IFR from time to time.

Some guy landed and the ground controller launched into a full ground
school lesson plan. He apologized profusely to the pilot for NY Approach
not letting him in earlier that morning, explained to him how weather
observations worked, special VFR worked, why the rules made it impossible
for the controller to have suggested this to the pilot while he was still
in the air, etc, etc.