Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Bill Denton writes:

The issue is not one of medical fitness.

The issue is that one cannot obtain a medical...

Indeed. Two different things.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:41:21 -0800, Bill Denton wrote
(in article ) :

The issue is not one of medical fitness.

The issue is that one cannot obtain a medical...


Very well. You cannot obtain a medical if you suffer depression, whether you
are taking medication or not. It is bogus to claim, as the OP did, that you
can fly with depression as long as you are not taking any medication for it.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:33:38 -0800, Mxsmanic wrote
(in article ):

C J Campbell writes:

Nonsense. You are not allowed to fly if you suffer from depression. The FAA
takes the position that if your depression is bad enough to require
medication then it is bad enough to keep you from flying. But if your
depression is that bad and you fly anyway without taking any medications
then
the FAA would still consider you medically unfit.

What if failing your medical and losing the ability to fly causes you
to lapse into depression?



The FAA does not care, obviously, if it causes depression. It is, in fact,
their job goal. Their motto is "We're not happy until you're not happy."

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If you are untreated, you may not know that you suffer from depression.

If you are untreated, how would the FAA know that you suffered from it?



"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:41:21 -0800, Bill Denton wrote
(in article ) :

The issue is not one of medical fitness.

The issue is that one cannot obtain a medical...


Very well. You cannot obtain a medical if you suffer depression, whether
you
are taking medication or not. It is bogus to claim, as the OP did, that
you
can fly with depression as long as you are not taking any medication for
it.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:41:21 -0800, Bill Denton wrote
(in article ) :

The issue is not one of medical fitness.

The issue is that one cannot obtain a medical...


Very well. You cannot obtain a medical if you suffer depression,

Sure you can. As long asit hasn't been diagnosed...

Or, how about ADD? I know for a fact that you can get a medical (and a
license) even if you have ADD as long as it is undiagnosed and untreated.

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C J Campbell writes:

Very well. You cannot obtain a medical if you suffer depression, whether you
are taking medication or not.

But "suffering" in the context of a medical generally means
"diagnosed" or "undergoing treatment."

It is bogus to claim, as the OP did, that you can fly with depression
as long as you are not taking any medication for it.

Sure you can, as long as you have the medical, which is not the same
as having the disorder.

You can be prevented from flying by a past diagnosis of something you
no longer actually have. Conversely, you can fly with a condition as
long as you haven't been diagnosed with it and/or treated for it.

This is just one of the dangers of improper and excessive regulation
of physical fitness requirements.

The worst thing is that some pilots may be tempted to leave medical
conditions untreated just so that they can continue to fly. As long
as their condition is undiagnosed and untreated, they are fine from a
regulatory standpoint.

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C J Campbell writes:

The FAA does not care, obviously, if it causes depression. It is, in fact,
their job goal. Their motto is "We're not happy until you're not happy."

I'm surprised that it works this way. The medical requirements seem
to be inspired by (but not inspected by) NASA's astronaut programs or
something. They fail to properly address real potential problems
while dramatically overemphasizing things that aren't problems at all.
They generally impose a higher-than-necessary standard for fitness.

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Outlook has taken to placing responses in seemingly random places in the
hierarchy, sorry for the confusion, it was of course direct to the OP.

- Barney

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

"Barney Rubble" wrote

If is "Common knowledge" that many pilots are pathological liars, why
can't you find the evidence? Maybe because you just made that line
up.Why don't you give the FAA a call in OKC, I'm sure they would love to
chew the fat with you....


Careful how you attribute quotes. Your response makes it seem as though
Ron wrote the "common knowledge" line, but it was the originator of the
thread that said that.

Just another problem with top-posting.

Matt

No because the OP pulled statement out of their backside and presented it is
common knowledge.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Happy Dog writes:

There are none. Your query lacks credibility. Know why?

Because you disagree?

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