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  #61  
Old February 13th 07, 10:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tony
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Puerto Rico is both largely Spanish speaking, part of the United
States, and literate.

Now will you reconsider your statement, or will this stand as another
example when you were demonstrated to have made an incorrect or
misleading statement?

Silly question, we already know the answer.

On Feb 13, 1:43 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tony writes:
Is Puerto Rico an inconvenient counter example to this statement?


I haven't seen any data on Puerto Rico.

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Old February 13th 07, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Puerto Rico is both largely Spanish speaking, part of the United
States, and literate.


Yes, but do Puerto Ricans care what the weather is in the Quad
Cities?

:-)
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  #63  
Old February 13th 07, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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WTF does this have to do with piloting anyway.

Nothing. Again, you have wandered off into a bitter rant.

This thread is about foreign language weather websites being paid for
with US taxpayer dollars. This all-too-typical government
wastefulness is especially disturbing in an era when we're being
threatened with "user's fees" due to "budget shortfalls".

You can rant all you want about Spanish not being a foreign language
in America, but you will be both irrelevant and wrong.
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  #64  
Old February 13th 07, 11:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Ousterhout
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Jay Honeck wrote:
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/forecast/Map...=121&map.y=125

(or http://tinyurl.com/39s8j5 if that URL wraps...)

Does anyone else find it disturbing that the National Weather Service
in the United States is paying out taxpayer money to a government
employee to create a foreign-language web page?



No, not at all.

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  #65  
Old February 13th 07, 11:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I sincerely doubt that. Yes, English is more dominant now than it was when
you were born, but now it is losing a little of that dominance. You need to
get out of Iowa once in awhile. Visit Washington, D.C., or New Mexico, or
Puerto Rico. We have managed to hold this country together for more than two
centuries despite the fact that so many languages are spoken in it. I suspect
it will continue for a few more.


We have never before in our history had a government that REQUIRED
bilingualism. We have always tolerated multiple languages, because we
are *all* immigrants -- but the difference now is that all of us are
being forced to pay for another set of immigrants who are apparently
incapable of comprehending English.

You must believe that America has become weak indeed if it can no longer
tolerate what has been the situation since its inception.


See above. We have never had governement-mandated bilingualism.
Ever. What bilingualism existed was like Milwaukee (German) or San
Francisco (Chinese), and was paid for BY THE IMMIGRANTS THEMSELVES.

Huge difference.
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Old February 14th 07, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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This thread is about foreign language weather websites being paid for
with US taxpayer dollars. [...]

You can rant all you want about Spanish not being a foreign language
in America, but you will be both irrelevant and wrong.


Uhhh... no. The website was in =Spanish=, so it is relevant whether it
is a foreign language or not. And the word "foreign" doesn't mean
"foreign to Jay". Spanish is not foreign to the United States.

So, such a rant would be is relevant, and right. Not irrelevant and wrong.

Besides, do you know how much it costs to translate the website into
Spanish? I resent the government translating the website into babytalk.
=That's= where the problem lies.

Jose
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  #67  
Old February 14th 07, 12:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
vincent p. norris
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I never said I was good at it. I do know the language.

Your posting implies you care about it. If that's the case, wouldn't
you rather be good at it?

Do you try to be a good pilot, or merely know how to fly?

vince norris
  #68  
Old February 14th 07, 12:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
vincent p. norris
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Vince, crawl back under your rock.
Daveb


I never crawl out from under my rock to criticize another poster's
language skills unless that poster has first criticized another
person's language skills. That makes him, or her, fair game.

vince norris
  #69  
Old February 14th 07, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Puerto Rico is both largely Spanish speaking, part of the United
States, and literate.

Now will you reconsider your statement, or will this stand as another
example when you were demonstrated to have made an incorrect or
misleading statement?

Silly question, we already know the answer.

BTW, a similar thing is true in much of Miami Florida.

A high percentage of the Spanish speaking population is highly educated and
highly litterate. They simply have the same problem in English that I have
in Spanish--they started learning it much too late. It is easy to become
fully proficient (and free of obvious accents) in a new language as a child,
diffecult as an adolescent, and frequently unsuccessfull as an adult.

IMHO, this is a rather obvious problem in our education system.

Peter


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Old February 14th 07, 01:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Amazing. So in what country is Lakota a native language?

The country or area in which the natives speak it. But if it is not the
predominant language in the country, it's still a foreign language.


There is no definition of "foreign" that makes it synonymous with "non-
dominant". You've simply added a new definition to an existing word for
personal reasons.


According to Wikipedia, Lakota is one of the Sioux languages.

BTW, this is a great example of what irritates me, and possibly others with
regard to MX.


 




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