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Don, (please take this as kindly rebuttal) what do you think your
paying slavish attention to the news accomplishes?

Does your knowing that Cho butchered a bunch of innocent kids change
one thing? Do you feel better knowing all the details of his deranged
spoutings and savagery? Does your knowing change anything?

Does your knowing that Sunnis and ****es slaughtered each other, once
again, last night contribute to a solution? My gawd, they pray to
the same prophet from the same book and then go out and slaughter each
other in the name of the prophet!

Does knowing that the head of the world bank is stuffing his
girlfriend with money (among other things) do anything at all to
improve your lot in life or that of your family?

Now I could go on with endless rhetorical questions about current
news, but I've made my point adequately... Not one of these things
that you "are paying attention to for me" is meaningful in any way in
your life or mine... They are all things that have already
happened. Unless you have a time machine they are fait accompli, over,
finished, poof... You cannot in any way change them...

Now, lets say you feel that following the news makes you a more
informed voter... OK, so you vote for Goodolboy for Senator because
you feel he represents your interest better than his opponent.. As
soon as Goodolboy hits DC who does he represent? You? hah
He represents his majority or minority whip, who represents the
power brokers in their party... You don't even enter the equation...
You elected someone to represent you and he is representing HIS party
once the vote is cast you don't even exist in his world until the
next election...

Not following the rest of the sheep who drool in front of the idiot
tube is not the same thing as ignorance as to what is going on...

cheers - denny

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:40:53 -0400, "John T"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


This motion picture will change your life:

Remember this post the next time you start complaining about off-topic
threads here...

I'll be happy to comply with your request just as soon as you provide
an explanation of the aviation information contained in your articles
posted in rec.aviation.piloting referenced below:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...1?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...0?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...0?dmode=source
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:17:04 -0400, Jose
wrote in :

If you don't like what you choose to watch, turn off the TV.
And what of the news you'd like to watch, but because it may have a
negative impact on the news media's parent company, it isn't reported?

Then watch the news on a different channel.

Actually, the problem isn't so much that the news reporting is
"controlled" by media companies, but rather, that news reporting is
under the entertainment division and not the journalism division.

Actually, the problem is that the communications industry is
controlled by only a handful of large corporations, and thus what gets
reported must not taint the image of any of their holdings.

Who wants to watch real news and actually analyze current events? Yes,
those kinds of people are in the minority. Most people =prefer= to
watch a white SUV drive down the highway.

=That= is the problem. It is us, collectively, who decide what is
profitable to the media companies.

Please explain how the audience can decide on having news of which
they are unaware reported.

I agree that in doing so, we are
handing over the keys to our brains, and at some point it will be too
late.

That point has arrived.

But the power was not siezed by them, it was given to them.

Actually both are true.

Whoever the "them" turns out to be.

Rupert Murdock, Sony, ClearChannel, TimeWarner, ...

On 27 Apr 2007 04:38:35 -0700, Denny wrote:

Don, (please take this as kindly rebuttal) what do you think your
paying slavish attention to the news accomplishes?

Does your knowing that Cho butchered a bunch of innocent kids change
one thing? Do you feel better knowing all the details of his deranged
spoutings and savagery? Does your knowing change anything?

Does your knowing that Sunnis and ****es slaughtered each other, once
again, last night contribute to a solution? My gawd, they pray to
the same prophet from the same book and then go out and slaughter each
other in the name of the prophet!

Does knowing that the head of the world bank is stuffing his
girlfriend with money (among other things) do anything at all to
improve your lot in life or that of your family?


The problem is that if I, and other rational people, do not pay
attention, solutions to those problems will be proposed and enacted
which in many cases will be useless if not worse than the problem.

Now I could go on with endless rhetorical questions about current
news, but I've made my point adequately... Not one of these things
that you "are paying attention to for me" is meaningful in any way in
your life or mine... They are all things that have already
happened. Unless you have a time machine they are fait accompli, over,
finished, poof... You cannot in any way change them...


But we can prevent some of them from happening again, or prepare to
deal more effectively with them if we cannot. Much as we analyze
aircraft mishaps to learn from our mistakes and those of others.


Now, lets say you feel that following the news makes you a more
informed voter... OK, so you vote for Goodolboy for Senator because
you feel he represents your interest better than his opponent.. As
soon as Goodolboy hits DC who does he represent? You? hah

Actually, I am gathering signatures to run for the 14th Senate
District in Virginia this fall as the Libertarian Party candidate.

Don

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


Remember this post the next time you start complaining about
off-topic threads here...

I'll be happy to comply with your request just as soon as you provide
an explanation of the aviation information contained in your articles
posted in rec.aviation.piloting referenced below:

The important part is I don't complain about off-topic threads. Do any of
those links show otherwise?

--
John T
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:
"Steve Foley" wrote in message
...
Is that warm, dry sand, or cold, wet sand?

"Don Tabor" wrote in message
...

Or you could stick your head in the sand and hope that those of us
who are paying attention will take care of you.

The funniest stuff I saw on TV the past few years (this was at
relatives home,we pulled our cable in 2000) was Jay Leno asking
questions to people on the street.

Example!

Leno: "Who is the Vice President?"
Clueless ditz: "Um...I dunno".

I'm sure Ms. Clueless, though, has an opinion.

Thing is, it was over and over. And other surveys bear him out.

There was a game show on the aire a few years ago did the same thing. It
was really funny to watch until I started thinking about the fact that
those idiot's votes counted as much as mine did.
We've all surely seen the polls that says something like 60%+ of people
think "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is
from the US Constitution.

Worse, in Congress it's probably 98%.

"Don Tabor" wrote in message
...
snip

Actually, I am gathering signatures to run for the 14th Senate
District in Virginia this fall as the Libertarian Party candidate.

Don

This will be an interesting life experience for you but will not be without
its own personal problems and issues.

Good luck and Happy Landings, YMMV

"ManhattanMan" wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

There was a game show on the aire a few years ago did the same thing.
It was really funny to watch until I started thinking about the fact
that those idiot's votes counted as much as mine did.

And look what it got us........
Just before the 1996 elections, CATO Institute did a survey of how much
people knoew about government power (Constitution, structure of government,
spending practices...). The results were telling by self-identified groups:

(Rough estimates)

Democrats: 25%
Republicans: 55%
Independents: 60%
Libertarians: 85+%

"Don Tabor" wrote

Actually, I am gathering signatures to run for the 14th Senate
District in Virginia this fall as the Libertarian Party candidate.

While I applaud your attempt at doing something worthwhile, I can't help but
think how futile your effort will be.

Being a third party in a two party system will at most mean you get to break
a tie in a few close issues.
--
Jim in NC

Matt Barrow wrote:
"ManhattanMan" wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

There was a game show on the aire a few years ago did the same
thing. It was really funny to watch until I started thinking about
the fact that those idiot's votes counted as much as mine did.

And look what it got us........
Just before the 1996 elections, CATO Institute did a survey of how
much people knoew about government power (Constitution, structure of
government, spending practices...). The results were telling by self-
identified groups:
(Rough estimates)

Democrats: 25%
Republicans: 55%
Independents: 60%
Libertarians: 85+%

That doesn't surprise me at all, especially the Libertarians. They are a
group that think enough about politics to seek out a third party that more
closely fits their views. To bad that that same group can't get it together
enough to actually field a successful candidate for any national office.