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Old August 29th 07, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Our rents are already much higher than neighboring airports, and GA
activity overall is still way down...


How much do they charge for hangar rental in Iowa City?


They just raised ours to $137/month.

I know that probably sounds absurdly low to you guys in big cities,
but it's 25% higher than an equivalent hangar in nearby Cedar Rapids
(CID), a Class C, top-notch airport.
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Old August 29th 07, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Our rents are already much higher than neighboring airports, and GA
activity overall is still way down...


How much do they charge for hangar rental in Iowa City?


They just raised ours to $137/month.

I know that probably sounds absurdly low to you guys in big cities,
but it's 25% higher than an equivalent hangar in nearby Cedar Rapids
(CID), a Class C, top-notch airport.


I don't know about big cities, but it's damn low in this "big" city (with a
state population smaller than many middle sized cities).


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Old August 30th 07, 01:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Why reference Kalifornia law for an Iowa problem??????


Because that is the one I used to teach and am most familiar with. I also
know as a general rule that California law parallels quite a few other
states in the provisions.


A civil action can be pursued on the basis of due process if topics are
pre-
judged and discussed in public.


If you have superior knowledge that Iowa law prescribes this, then I bow to
your better understanding. Otherwise hogwash.

Jim


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Old August 30th 07, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

They just raised ours to $137/month.


Around here, it's not uncommon to hear of hangar rentals being twice that
figure.
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Old August 30th 07, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

This has all happened because a single commissioner was/is ****ed that
she lost a vote to raise hangar rents sky-high. When she lost the
vote, she announced that "if this rate increase cannot go through than
I will insist that the hangar leases be followed strictly to the
letter of the law, and that regular inspections be made to make sure
that no hangar tenants are improperly using hangars for storage".


Sounds like the commissioner should comply with the same standard, that
is, strictly following the letter of the law wrt her responsibilities and
obligations as commissioner as well as holding the airport to the same
standard.

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Old August 30th 07, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Doug Semler
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Our rents are already much higher than neighboring airports, and GA
activity overall is still way down...


How much do they charge for hangar rental in Iowa City?


They just raised ours to $137/month.

I know that probably sounds absurdly low to you guys in big cities,
but it's 25% higher than an equivalent hangar in nearby Cedar Rapids
(CID), a Class C, top-notch airport.


Grosse Isle average T-hanger slot is avg twice that much.

I'm moving to Iowa g

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  #67  
Old August 30th 07, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:43:35 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)


I take it this refers to the storage of, rather than the presence of:
Ours did have such regs, but regardless of what was stored in the
hangars, as long as there was an airplane in there, pilots found
justifiable reasons for them being aviation related. For instance the
bicycle was for riding home after the wife/husband dropped the pilot
off to go flying. The old furniture was used for hangar flying
(really was/is) and the old cabinets hold airplane parts. (really do)

FBO was getting bent out of shape due to all the cars parked around
the one hangar where you might find 10 or 12 pilots gathered eating
popcorn and/or donuts (they have a popcorn machine, donut maker,
refrigerator, and kitchen range in there too) and drinking beer (after
flying). So the next step was to ban beer on the airport and parties
at the hangars.

Some one with some common sense realized this was creating a good
atmosphere for the pilots, their families, and friends. People at the
parties were well behaved and keep the place clean. IOW it was
attracting more pilots and planes as well as more flying and
introducing more people to flying which was considered a good thing.
That was with the exception of the people who built expensive homes
right off the departure end of 18. Since complaints now go on the
record they have been strangely silent over there.

Of course the one guy closest to the end of the runway is probably
still sore about having to take down his tall TV antenna. He probably
still blames me for having to take it down.

I was on final for 36 one day, coming in over the new subdivision when
I became aware of something ahead sticking up darn near as high as I
was and it looked like some one was on it. I don't know how tall the
tower was, but there was a guy installing a big TV antenna on top of
it. I had to apply power to stay above it and the guy on it got a real
good look at the gear and underside of a 3000# airplane. Next day it
was gone! :-)) Those small towers and TV antennas are very hard to
see! I might not have seen it either if the guy hadn't been working on
it. BTW the trees to the north of him are trimmed short (topped)

This did bring to mind that a pilot should never get complacent even
though you are flying into and out of the same airport a number of
times per week. It's unlikely all the neighbors know they need a
permit to stick up anything much above the tops of the trees, or
anything that sticks up if they are under the approach. One of those
steel or aluminum towers can pop up in a matter of an hour or two.


Roger (K8RI)

Is this legal?

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Old August 30th 07, 11:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

They just raised ours to $137/month.

I know that probably sounds absurdly low to you guys in big cities,


Big city? G

Tee hangars in the sticks, halfway between Hartford and Providence are
in the $350-400 / mo range. And there's a waiting list, so I can't have
one.
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Old August 30th 07, 12:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
B A R R Y wrote:

They just raised ours to $137/month.

I know that probably sounds absurdly low to you guys in big cities,


At KBED, Ma$$port charges $119/month for a tie-down with zero services.
My old t-hangar is now $606/month with rumors of more price increases
on the way

Believe it or not, there's a waiting list for these hangars even though Ma$$port
charges a non-refundable fee for the "privelege" of being on the list. There
are some D U M B owners around here.


Big city? G

Tee hangars in the sticks, halfway between Hartford and Providence are
in the $350-400 / mo range. And there's a waiting list, so I can't have
one.


I'm not sure I'd call "halfway between Hartford and Providence" the sticks.

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Old August 30th 07, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Bob Noel wrote:

I'm not sure I'd call "halfway between Hartford and Providence" the sticks.


You're right, semi-sticks. G

Next time you fly over Danielson or Windham airports or the Norwich or
Putnam VOR's, note that it's far from a metropolis. Still lots of
trees and farms along the way. Look:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=windham+airport&sll=37.0 625,-95.677068&sspn=32.939885,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.7 4442,-72.181549&spn=0.121164,0.233459&t=k&z=12&om=1


The folks in Hartford or Groton have it worse than I do, hangar-wise,
but not as bad as KBED.




 




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