Air sickness

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Oh but I do..



Bertie

Extremely lame, F.

Why bother responding to Anthony- he will simply argue the point
as if he's the world's knowledge expert on the subject. The fact
remains that he doesn't fly, never has, never will, and therefore
motion sickness from flight is a non-issue for him.

One can say, of course, there are times when someone ignorant of
the science has a sudden insight that can be a breakthrough, but as
my daddy taught me, that's not the way to place your bets. The
chances of that are much less likely than connecting when drawing
to an inside straight: maybe winning the lottery is a better
example.

The good news is, Mx makes his pontifications in a newsgroup where
there are both experts and facts available. His kind of pseudo
knowledge is more dangerous in soft science areas: for some reason
psychology comes to mind.

Well, be fair, even the best psychologists are only making it up as
they go along.
in addition, who better to comment on psych probs than someone who's
not only seen 'em all, but had 'em all as well.

Bertie

Sorry BtB, but we actually have modalities with proven results now,
and the side effects are less severe than the psychotropic meds that
had often been used.

So did the guys who used to drill holes in their heads to let the demons
out.
I'm not saying you guys don't do some good, but can you put your hand on
your heart and look into the future and tell me the people who inherit
your trade won't shudder at some of the stuff you do know? I know the
people flying whatever they will be flying in fifty years will!


It was said at a Med School graduation not that long ago that the
dean's closing remarks included something like "half of what we taught
you is wrong, but we don't know which half."

That may be the wrong fraction these days, but the idea is still
correct. We do evidence based medicine and results based modalities
these days. One size does not fit all. Even the best of the
psychotropic drugs have about a 30% chance of having the desired
results -- that's why one monitors the effects of these meds, makes
changes and tries others if he or she can.

It's a lot less certain than flying from here to there. One the other
hand, life expectancy in the last century improved on average a month
a year - 100 months longer now than a hundred years ago, so there has
been some improvement if one accepts life expectancy as a reasonable
metric. I think quality of life expectancy has gained even more, but
have no evidence to support that claim.

But you and others are more than welcome to choose your own path to
health. There are Mxes in the health professions. You are welcome to
them.

In terms of treatments, though, there are some here who present with a
constellation of symptoms that cry for an applied lobometry.

Applied with a hammer.


I concur.

Bertie

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Oh but I do..



Bertie

Extremely lame, F.




Oh but it isn't.


Bertie

Tina wrote in news:f15aa3b8-e230-42fc-b180-
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It was said at a Med School graduation not that long ago that the
dean's closing remarks included something like "half of what we taught
you is wrong, but we don't know which half."


I think he was probably being a little optomistic, depending...

That may be the wrong fraction these days, but the idea is still
correct. We do evidence based medicine and results based modalities
these days. One size does not fit all. Even the best of the
psychotropic drugs have about a 30% chance of having the desired
results -- that's why one monitors the effects of these meds, makes
changes and tries others if he or she can.

It's a lot less certain than flying from here to there. One the other
hand, life expectancy in the last century improved on average a month
a year - 100 months longer now than a hundred years ago, so there has
been some improvement if one accepts life expectancy as a reasonable
metric. I think quality of life expectancy has gained even more, but
have no evidence to support that claim.

Well, I've had protracted stays in countries where the life expectancy
is still very low inddedd (I heard 39 quoted, but if anything it's lower
now) So you're probably right, I was only talking about the shrink
aspect in any case..

But you and others are more than welcome to choose your own path to
health. There are Mxes in the health professions. You are welcome to
them.

Yeah, met one or two. I knew a guynie years ago who told me he could
clone a human given 10 grand. He gave it a 50/50 chance of working. This
would have been around 1992, BTW.

On Wed, 28 May 2008 22:29:04 +0200 (CEST), Buster Hymen
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Buster Hymen writes:

Why should Viperdoc waste his time?

He has already wasted the time of others with ineffectual personal
attacks; why not contribute to the newsgroup instead?


Answering you doesn't contribute to anything.

You're a worthless pile of fecal matter.

oh come on we can do better than that last line for style.

try
you're so full of it that your eyes are brown.

or

you're a tribute to modern adhesives.
(normally cow pats are an inch high, but with modern adhesives we see
them all the way up to your height.)

On May 29, 7:02 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Tina wrote in news:f15aa3b8-e230-42fc-b180-
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It was said at a Med School graduation not that long ago that the
dean's closing remarks included something like "half of what we taught
you is wrong, but we don't know which half."

I think he was probably being a little optomistic, depending...



That may be the wrong fraction these days, but the idea is still
correct. We do evidence based medicine and results based modalities
these days. One size does not fit all. Even the best of the
psychotropic drugs have about a 30% chance of having the desired
results -- that's why one monitors the effects of these meds, makes
changes and tries others if he or she can.

It's a lot less certain than flying from here to there. One the other
hand, life expectancy in the last century improved on average a month
a year - 100 months longer now than a hundred years ago, so there has
been some improvement if one accepts life expectancy as a reasonable
metric. I think quality of life expectancy has gained even more, but
have no evidence to support that claim.

Well, I've had protracted stays in countries where the life expectancy
is still very low inddedd (I heard 39 quoted, but if anything it's lower
now) So you're probably right, I was only talking about the shrink
aspect in any case..

The evidence is we are by most measures one of the poorer performing
segments of the health care industry. Some of us spend our
professional time working on developing improved standards of care.
It's a field needing lots of work, since for example depression seems
to be as common as the common cold . The good news for us is, there
are lots of people needing help. The bad news is, many don't recognize
their need for help -- including some members of this news group. For
some here, and elsewhere, I still think blunt force lobotomies -- 5
pound hammers come to mind -- might be appropriate. I should have
said, of course, a 5 pound hammer coming to their so called mind.

Gotta go. My next victim , ah, that is, patient, is waiting. When the
only tool you have is a hammer. everything looks like a nail.

Tina wrote in news:1ad4e2cd-a197-4617-9818-
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The evidence is we are by most measures one of the poorer performing
segments of the health care industry. Some of us spend our
professional time working on developing improved standards of care.

Hey, once you know there's a problem, eh?


It's a field needing lots of work, since for example depression seems
to be as common as the common cold . The good news for us is, there
are lots of people needing help. The bad news is, many don't recognize
their need for help -- including some members of this news group. For
some here, and elsewhere, I still think blunt force lobotomies -- 5
pound hammers come to mind -- might be appropriate. I should have
said, of course, a 5 pound hammer coming to their so called mind.


I think a few have already had them. Or maybe they just watched one too
many episodes of Laverne and Shirley.

Gotta go. My next victim , ah, that is, patient, is waiting. When the
only tool you have is a hammer. everything looks like a nail.


Mmmm, that's good! I my use it in my sig, though I think I will change
it to a pliers and nuts.



Bertie

Viperdoc writes:

Anthony, I could care less about you- it is not a personal attack, simply a
statement of fact, just like the fact that you don't fly and are not a
physician, and have no experience in either field.

Everything I said was correct, irrespective of whether or not I'm a physician.
If you believe it wasn't, correct it.

Steve Foley writes:

Nobody else seems interested enough to ask.

The original poster asked, and I answered.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Everything I said was correct

Just like your statmenet that you don't make spelling mistakes?