Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

On Oct 10, 11:20*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Mike" nospam @ microsoft.com wrote :



"Jack" wrote in message
...
wrote:

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application
to Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone.

Without a personal interview?

Without any contact with any intermediary between the school and
Obama?

I think it unlikely.

Let's examine what you "think" for a moment. *Let's assume that what
you "think" is accurate (even though there is no evidence to support
it). *The very worst you could say about Obama was he got an advantage
he did not seek out. *Meanwhile McCain sought out the very institution
he KNEW he would be provided with an advantage based on the fact that
both his father and grandfather were admirals in the Navy.
Furthermore he continued to use that advantage throughout his tenure
at Annapolis. *It's unlikely he would have been allowed to stay based
on his grades and conduct if not for that advantage.

What's most disappointing abuot this is that when i was told as a child
"you'll never get to be presidinet if you ony get C's" it was all a lie....

Bertie

Heck after Bush, I remember as a kid being told 'anybody can be
president', sure worked with him. Keeerriiisst.

"frank" wrote

That means he did well in Law School. I know lots of people that were
good in school including law school that have a hard time making it in
the real world.

Except he came back and taught in law school.

Interesting that you got the impression that he did well in law school.

You know, arguing politics and the qualifications of candidates is a lot
like arguing religion.

You can find a reason to make a case for about anything you want to put
forth as your belief.

This is the case with a comparison of Obama vs. McCain.

Another fact about arguing politics or religion is that once you hold a
belief, nobody is going to change that belief, no matter what is said in
support of one side vs. another.

My belief on this presidential race is that we need a do-over. Neither
candidate is going to be a good president, most likely.

For the do-over, have 2 rounds of primaries, all on the same days throughout
the country. I didn't get to choose who was going to be nominated to run.
It was decided by the time it got to my state.

That is unconstitutional, in my view. It needs to be changed, badly.

I know that this will never change, or it will not for a good long while,
but I can hope!
--
Jim in NC

frank wrote in
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On Oct 10, 11:20*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Mike" nospam @ microsoft.com wrote

nilink.net:



"Jack" wrote in message
...
wrote:

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his
application to Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications
alone.

Without a personal interview?

Without any contact with any intermediary between the school and
Obama?

I think it unlikely.

Let's examine what you "think" for a moment. *Let's assume that
what you "think" is accurate (even though there is no evidence to
support it). *The very worst you could say about Obama was he got
an advantag
e
he did not seek out. *Meanwhile McCain sought out the very
institutio
n
he KNEW he would be provided with an advantage based on the fact
that both his father and grandfather were admirals in the Navy.
Furthermore he continued to use that advantage throughout his
tenure at Annapolis. *It's unlikely he would have been allowed to
stay based on his grades and conduct if not for that advantage.

What's most disappointing abuot this is that when i was told as a
child "you'll never get to be presidinet if you ony get C's" it was
all a lie..
.

Bertie

Heck after Bush, I remember as a kid being told 'anybody can be
president', sure worked with him. Keeerriiisst.

After him it was more like anything can be president.


I'm thinking of running my Old Volvo next time around.


Bertie

"Morgans" wrote in :


"frank" wrote


That is unconstitutional, in my view. It needs to be changed, badly.


if it needs to be changed badly, they should definitely get you to do it.




Bertie

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:06:13 -0500, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

jacob wrote:
"Well there is at least one law student named each year. Are all of
these guys and girls qualified to be President?"

Nobody has said that being head editor of Harvard law review alone
makes a person qualified to be president of the U.S. It is however,
solid proof that the person is hard working and intelligent. Very
intelligent. For some voters, intelligence is regarded as one of many
important measures of whether a person is qualified to be president.

That means he did well in Law School. I know lots of people that were
good in school including law school that have a hard time making it in
the real world.

Surely, you're not going to suggest that Obama falls into that
category.

On Oct 8, 3:28*pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Deadmoney Walking wrote:

Can they gain entry due to the skin color of their fathers?

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application to
Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone. Unlike
McCain...

Who not only didn't get into Havard, but finished 5th from last at the Naval
Academy.

And unlike Obama we know this. Notice that with McCain they find
people going back to grade school who talk freely about him, people
know where he has stood since he was a kid. With Obama his career
seems to start when he got elected Senator and started running for
President. So does his whole biography. We hear "Community Organizer."
OK. Organizing a community for what? Working with who? To what ends?
These things are not covered. The Democratic party papers that all
over and the media seems fine with it. Never mind his law career
working for Franklin Raines, of Fannie Mae mismanagement infamy (also
someone Obama had on his campaign as an adviser) and never mind other
people who he may have worked with. never mind the goals they were
"organizing" for.

John Kerry, Al Gore, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush,
they all had pretty full biographies. Some things you might like about
them and some things no, but you knew where they stood. Obama's is
papered over in favor of pastel posters and images crafted from whole
cloth.

As for the USNA I doubt McCain wanted to go anyplace else, and most of
his leadership and service came after.

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
...
On Oct 8, 3:28 pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Deadmoney Walking wrote:

Can they gain entry due to the skin color of their fathers?

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application to
Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone. Unlike
McCain...

Who not only didn't get into Havard, but finished 5th from last at the
Naval
Academy.

"And unlike Obama we know this. Notice that with McCain they find
people going back to grade school who talk freely about him, people
know where he has stood since he was a kid. With Obama his career
seems to start when he got elected Senator and started running for
President. So does his whole biography. We hear "Community Organizer."
OK. Organizing a community for what? Working with who? To what ends?"

Obama was an arm twister for ACORN, one of the crookedest community
shake-down groups in the country. They are currently under investigation
for voter registration fraud in more than half a dozen states. In 1977
Jimmy Carter passed the Community Reinvestment Act to force banks to make
home mortgage loans to financially unqualified miniorities in inner city
neighborhoods. They fined any bank that did not comply. ACORN was funded
by the Democrat party and helped them use "entitlement" subprime mortgage
loans to buy minority votes. ACORN harrassed, intimidated and played the
race card on any bank or finanace company that refused to make these unsound
subprime mortgage loans. Obama helped ACORN file a law suit against an
Illinois finance company to block their desired merger with another finance
compay. ACORN succressfully argued that the finance company had not made
enough subprime mortgage loans to minorities. Obama won the law suit and
banks and finance companies all across the country began lowering their
standards for subprime loans to minorities. Plus, the Democrats were
pressuring F-MAE and F-MAC to buy up more and more of these subprime home
mortgages. Then, in 1999, Bill Clinton required that F-MAE and F-MAC have
up to 50% of their investment portfolios made up of subprime mortgages.
This sent a clear message to Wall Street. And that message was that F-MAE
and F-MAC would buy up all the high risk subprimes mortgages for minorities
and low income people that the banks could write. Well the banks loved it.
They were making money from up-front mortgage processing fees from mortgages
to unqualified buyers that they would have never given a loan to in a
hundred years if F-MAE and F-MAC weren't there to buy them. Then the banks
got greedy and started bundling and reselling these subprime mortgages to
investment banks, pension funds, insurance companies and private investors.
In 2001 Bush tried to warn the country of the dangers of F-MAE and F-MAC but
no one listened and Bush didn't push the warning as hard as he should have.
John McCain wrote a warning letter, which was also ignored. In 2004, the
Republicans introduced legislation that would have prevented, or at least
greatly reduced, the impact of the subprime mortgage disaster but it was
defeated by the Democrats and never passed. Eventually the housing market
over heated from the influx of all this subprime mortgage cash and home
prices were artifically inflated. Then the market corrected itself and home
prices plunged. And what happened to all these unqualified buyers who
bought houses they couldn't afford with mortgages they were too stupid to
read?

They found themselves paying on a $250K mortgage for a house that was now
only worth $200K. What did they do? They just stopped making the mortgage
payments. They weren't worried about ruining their credit because their
credit was **** to begin with and they knew they never should have qualified
for the home mortgage in the first place. They didn't put any money down,
so they had no skin in the game. And the Democrats were telling them
theywere "victims" any way. So when the subprime mortgages began to fail,
it affected all of the other companies that had bought up these bundled and
re-sold subprime mortgages. Because they had been used as collateral for
even more loans. And then F-MAE and F-MAC, which they had thought was their
"safety-net' went bankrupt for all practical purposes and the whole
house-of-cards collapsed. The Democrats have controlled congress and
chaired all of the banking and finance committees for the past two years.
Between 8/07 and 8/08, under the "leadership" of Democrats and Barney Frank,
F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of their stock value.

The sad thing is that this financial disaster, which was caused by the
predatory political tactics of Obama and the Democrats, is actually going to
put them in the White House.

Irish Mike

"Irish Mike" wrote in message
...

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
...
On Oct 8, 3:28 pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Deadmoney Walking wrote:

Can they gain entry due to the skin color of their fathers?

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application to
Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone. Unlike
McCain...

Who not only didn't get into Havard, but finished 5th from last at the
Naval
Academy.

"And unlike Obama we know this. Notice that with McCain they find
people going back to grade school who talk freely about him, people
know where he has stood since he was a kid. With Obama his career
seems to start when he got elected Senator and started running for
President. So does his whole biography. We hear "Community Organizer."
OK. Organizing a community for what? Working with who? To what ends?"

Obama was an arm twister for ACORN, one of the crookedest community
shake-down groups in the country. They are currently under investigation
for voter registration fraud in more than half a dozen states. In 1977
Jimmy Carter passed the Community Reinvestment Act to force banks to make
home mortgage loans to financially unqualified miniorities in inner city
neighborhoods. They fined any bank that did not comply. ACORN was funded
by the Democrat party and helped them use "entitlement" subprime mortgage
loans to buy minority votes. ACORN harrassed, intimidated and played the
race card on any bank or finanace company that refused to make these
unsound subprime mortgage loans. Obama helped ACORN file a law suit
against an Illinois finance company to block their desired merger with
another finance compay. ACORN succressfully argued that the finance
company had not made enough subprime mortgage loans to minorities. Obama
won the law suit and banks and finance companies all across the country
began lowering their standards for subprime loans to minorities. Plus,
the Democrats were pressuring F-MAE and F-MAC to buy up more and more of
these subprime home mortgages. Then, in 1999, Bill Clinton required that
F-MAE and F-MAC have up to 50% of their investment portfolios made up of
subprime mortgages. This sent a clear message to Wall Street. And that
message was that F-MAE and F-MAC would buy up all the high risk subprimes
mortgages for minorities and low income people that the banks could write.
Well the banks loved it. They were making money from up-front mortgage
processing fees from mortgages to unqualified buyers that they would have
never given a loan to in a hundred years if F-MAE and F-MAC weren't there
to buy them. Then the banks got greedy and started bundling and reselling
these subprime mortgages to investment banks, pension funds, insurance
companies and private investors. In 2001 Bush tried to warn the country of
the dangers of F-MAE and F-MAC but no one listened and Bush didn't push
the warning as hard as he should have. John McCain wrote a warning letter,
which was also ignored. In 2004, the Republicans introduced legislation
that would have prevented, or at least greatly reduced, the impact of the
subprime mortgage disaster but it was defeated by the Democrats and never
passed. Eventually the housing market over heated from the influx of all
this subprime mortgage cash and home prices were artifically inflated.
Then the market corrected itself and home prices plunged. And what
happened to all these unqualified buyers who bought houses they couldn't
afford with mortgages they were too stupid to read?

They found themselves paying on a $250K mortgage for a house that was now
only worth $200K. What did they do? They just stopped making the
mortgage payments. They weren't worried about ruining their credit
because their credit was **** to begin with and they knew they never
should have qualified for the home mortgage in the first place. They
didn't put any money down, so they had no skin in the game. And the
Democrats were telling them theywere "victims" any way. So when the
subprime mortgages began to fail, it affected all of the other companies
that had bought up these bundled and re-sold subprime mortgages. Because
they had been used as collateral for even more loans. And then F-MAE and
F-MAC, which they had thought was their "safety-net' went bankrupt for all
practical purposes and the whole house-of-cards collapsed. The Democrats
have controlled congress and chaired all of the banking and finance
committees for the past two years. Between 8/07 and 8/08, under the
"leadership" of Democrats and Barney Frank, F-MAE and F-MAC lost 90% of
their stock value.

The sad thing is that this financial disaster, which was caused by the
predatory political tactics of Obama and the Democrats, is actually going
to put them in the White House.

Fortunately most people don't subscribe to the wingnut BS that you cut and
paste without bothering to fact check the validity.

"David E. Powell" wrote in
:

On Oct 8, 3:28*pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Deadmoney Walking wrote:

Can they gain entry due to the skin color of their fathers?

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application
to Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone. Unlike
McCain...

Who not only didn't get into Havard, but finished 5th from last at
the Na
val
Academy.

And unlike Obama we know this. Notice that with McCain they find
people going back to grade school who talk freely about him, people
know where he has stood since he was a kid. With Obama his career
seems to start when he got elected Senator and started running for
President. So does his whole biography. We hear "Community Organizer."
OK. Organizing a community for what? Working with who? To what ends?
These things are not covered.


Uh, yeh, they are....


Bertie

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:42:26 +0000 (UTC), in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip got double
secret probation for writing:

"David E. Powell" wrote in
:

On Oct 8, 3:28*pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Deadmoney Walking wrote:

Can they gain entry due to the skin color of their fathers?

actually, obama didn't fill out the race portion of his application
to Harvard. So he got in based on his qualifications alone. Unlike
McCain...

Who not only didn't get into Havard, but finished 5th from last at
the Na
val
Academy.

And unlike Obama we know this. Notice that with McCain they find
people going back to grade school who talk freely about him, people
know where he has stood since he was a kid. With Obama his career
seems to start when he got elected Senator and started running for
President. So does his whole biography. We hear "Community Organizer."
OK. Organizing a community for what? Working with who? To what ends?
These things are not covered.


Uh, yeh, they are....


Bertie

LIES!!! Those are retouched photos of him in grade school, High
School in Hawaii, in college in LA, New York & Mass and ALL the people
he worked with are paid liars.

REALLY it is a conspiracy by muslims to subvert the US Government.