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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chi...ew?usp=sharing
Accident report write up. Poor guy, sounds like he was having a great day until he wasn't. Nick T |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
On Monday, December 7, 2020 at 6:56:22 PM UTC-6, wrote:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chi...ew?usp=sharing Accident report write up. Poor guy, sounds like he was having a great day until he wasn't. Nick T Respect to the family for their efforts to improve safety. |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 6:15:06 AM UTC-6, Dave Walsh wrote:
The XCMag referenced above mentions a "psychedelic community" involved in fund raising for the search. What is a psychedelic community? It seemed that James was a member of an inner research group that used hallucinogenics in an attempt to find the origin of "self" or consciousness. Psychedelic induced experiences for this purpose have an ancient history from the early times, first recorded in the Soma Veda (1000 BCE) to present. The man seemed to be part of that community, also suggested by the tattoo of a Yogic Yantra on his chest. Wishing him peace and a favorable journey. Mike |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
Sad event.
In the accident report it mentions, "Of the upper lines still attached to the canopy, we can see that the vast majority were incorrectly mounted." This was listed in the conclusions section as one of the contributing factors. In the Recommendations section the report says that, "When re-lining a wing, ensure the lines are placed on the attachment tabs correctly. The loop of the lines must be held by the attachment tabs. Lines should not be attached with a lark’s foot as this significantly reduces their strength. If you are unsure of the correct procedure, always consult with a professional." This is unclear to me what the correct attachment method is. Anyone have the low down? Thanks, John (OHM) |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
The report was very informative and well written, though I had to look
up some of the jargon to gain a fuller understanding of what likely happened. Given the location and duration of the flight, I wonder if he carried enough water to avoid dehydration which can also decrease g tolerance. A sad event, indeed. -- Dan 5J |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
Often fly 300-500km? Often??? Sebastian Kayrouz just set the record of 501 in the US a couple months ago. Take a zero off that comment and you might be closer to the truth. I find it difficult to compare Paragliding and Hang gliding to sailplanes. Its really a different breed. That said i agree they are capable under the most specific conditions with very high skilled pilots.
DC On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 1:22:05 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote: Tom you realize you don’t know what you talking about? Paragliders fly much faster and farther than you think. In fact some of these guys often fly 300-500km in paragliders. Also the safety record of “these idiots” as you call them is in fact better than gliders. There are many more paraglider pilots and paraglider flights than sailplanes, with lower fatality rate. Sure they get injured much more often, but most of their accidents are survivable. We lost more glider pilots in Nevada than paraglider pilots. They certainly carry a lot of water with them, and can easily land on any dirt road and walk. And since many of them are younger and in better shape than many of us, they can walk out 20+ miles to the nearest road. They fly with 2M ham radios which reaches far more than “few miles” I believe further than our hand held radios, and can also use ham relays and other technologies.. And most of them fly with trackers. Perhaps non soaring pilots can make judgments on anyone who chose to fly light aircrafts without engines in the middle of nowhere, but not us. Ramy |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 12:06:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
The report was very informative and well written, though I had to look up some of the jargon to gain a fuller understanding of what likely happened. Given the location and duration of the flight, I wonder if he carried enough water to avoid dehydration which can also decrease g tolerance. A sad event, indeed. -- Dan 5J Dan, you make a good point, the tell, tell of the situation is why the reserve was not activated, certainly points to incapacity of the pilot. My wife is also a jumper, well, she was before she ended up in a cast for a year, she looked at the report and said, he was not conscious. |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
https://snowbrains.com/new-paraglidi...-record-578km/
Little more information on what these guys are capable of. Paragliding has come along ways in its short history. Nick Kennedy 1997 and 99 US Nationals Paragliding Contest Director. In both the above contests we had a fatality BTW. |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
Yeah 500km was a bit of a stretch, but 300Km are not uncommon in many places.
100-200km are pretty common in the areas I fly. These are typically straight distance, not yo-yos. The point is that they actually fly further than many sailplane pilots in some of the places I fly, which is very respectful distance for a bag with less than 10:1 glide ratio. Ramy On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 10:10:03 AM UTC-8, wrote: Often fly 300-500km? Often??? Sebastian Kayrouz just set the record of 501 in the US a couple months ago. Take a zero off that comment and you might be closer to the truth. I find it difficult to compare Paragliding and Hang gliding to sailplanes. Its really a different breed. That said i agree they are capable under the most specific conditions with very high skilled pilots. DC On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 1:22:05 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote: Tom you realize you don’t know what you talking about? Paragliders fly much faster and farther than you think. In fact some of these guys often fly 300-500km in paragliders. Also the safety record of “these idiots” as you call them is in fact better than gliders. There are many more paraglider pilots and paraglider flights than sailplanes, with lower fatality rate. Sure they get injured much more often, but most of their accidents are survivable. We lost more glider pilots in Nevada than paraglider pilots. They certainly carry a lot of water with them, and can easily land on any dirt road and walk.. And since many of them are younger and in better shape than many of us, they can walk out 20+ miles to the nearest road. They fly with 2M ham radios which reaches far more than “few miles” I believe further than our hand held radios, and can also use ham relays and other technologies. And most of them fly with trackers. Perhaps non soaring pilots can make judgments on anyone who chose to fly light aircrafts without engines in the middle of nowhere, but not us. Ramy |
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Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada
Ramy......I agree that excellent pilots are performing well with PGs .... Their advantage is they can land anywhere. To give any impression that a basic group of pilots can expect to regularly go 100 200k is over stating. BTW I believe we both flew hang gliders back in Chelan in the early 90s. -
DC On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 8:08:18 PM UTC-5, Ramy wrote: Yeah 500km was a bit of a stretch, but 300Km are not uncommon in many places. 100-200km are pretty common in the areas I fly. These are typically straight distance, not yo-yos. The point is that they actually fly further than many sailplane pilots in some of the places I fly, which is very respectful distance for a bag with less than 10:1 glide ratio. Ramy On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 10:10:03 AM UTC-8, wrote: Often fly 300-500km? Often??? Sebastian Kayrouz just set the record of 501 in the US a couple months ago. Take a zero off that comment and you might be closer to the truth. I find it difficult to compare Paragliding and Hang gliding to sailplanes. Its really a different breed. That said i agree they are capable under the most specific conditions with very high skilled pilots. DC On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 1:22:05 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote: Tom you realize you don’t know what you talking about? Paragliders fly much faster and farther than you think. In fact some of these guys often fly 300-500km in paragliders. Also the safety record of “these idiots” as you call them is in fact better than gliders. There are many more paraglider pilots and paraglider flights than sailplanes, with lower fatality rate. Sure they get injured much more often, but most of their accidents are survivable. We lost more glider pilots in Nevada than paraglider pilots. They certainly carry a lot of water with them, and can easily land on any dirt road and walk. And since many of them are younger and in better shape than many of us, they can walk out 20+ miles to the nearest road. They fly with 2M ham radios which reaches far more than “few miles” I believe further than our hand held radios, and can also use ham relays and other technologies. And most of them fly with trackers. Perhaps non soaring pilots can make judgments on anyone who chose to fly light aircrafts without engines in the middle of nowhere, but not us. Ramy |
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