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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:49 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote:
Marian Carr Knox, Corky. Killian's secretary, You know, the one who says the memos are forged, but also says the CONTENT of the memos is accurate? Sorry, taking the word of an 86 year old woman about something that may or may not have been in some peoples minds 32 years ago is not confirming anything. Sorry, bubba, but you can't have it both ways. There's only one person alive who knows both those facts. You keep skewering yourself with your own words. CBS went to press with documents they now admit they cannot prove are authentic. Whether the content is or is not accurate doesn't mean anything because the documents are forgeries. In order for the documents to be accepted as evidence, they MUST be the originals, and must be verifiable by anyone's expert. CBS is publically eating crow because everyone on earth knows this. Except you. Corky Scott |
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In article , Corky Scott says...
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:49 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote: Marian Carr Knox, Corky. Killian's secretary, You know, the one who says the memos are forged, but also says the CONTENT of the memos is accurate? Sorry, taking the word of an 86 year old woman about something that may or may not have been in some peoples minds 32 years ago is not confirming anything. Your right about that Corky. I'd love to see what jaun would say if I forged documents but said my recollection of what happened is accurate. Sorry, bubba, but you can't have it both ways. There's only one person alive who knows both those facts. You keep skewering yourself with your own words. CBS went to press with documents they now admit they cannot prove are authentic. Whether the content is or is not accurate doesn't mean anything because the documents are forgeries. In order for the documents to be accepted as evidence, they MUST be the originals, and must be verifiable by anyone's expert. CBS is publically eating crow because everyone on earth knows this. Except you. It would seem that he has some need to defend what the rest of the civilized world knows is dishonest.He's had lots of practice defending zoom and BD, now he's extending that trait to CBS. I don't think he's as clueless or dumb as he pretends to be but I do think he has another need and that is to be contrary for contrary's sake. See ya Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret "it's amazing how far someone will go just to ruin their credibility" chucks |
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Corky Scott wrote in
: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:49 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote: Marian Carr Knox, Corky. Killian's secretary, You know, the one who says the memos are forged, but also says the CONTENT of the memos is accurate? Sorry, taking the word of an 86 year old woman about something that may or may not have been in some peoples minds 32 years ago is not confirming anything. Oh, I get it, but taking her word that the memos are not real is? chuckle That's funny! Except this one remembers the Shrub very well, Corky. Extremely well, Which also shows that there's no reason why she would not remember her boss' frame of mind and comments about the Shrub. Is it your position that no 86 year old woman's recollection can be trusted? You do know that's not only sexist, it's a pretty dangerous position to take. Sorry, bubba, but you can't have it both ways. There's only one person alive who knows both those facts. You keep skewering yourself with your own words. You wish! CBS went to press with documents they now admit they cannot prove are authentic. Whether the content is or is not accurate doesn't mean anything because the documents are forgeries. Get real, Corky. This argument wouldn't stand up in a third grade debate class. I've got a piece of paper in a book here in my library that says it is the US Constitution, but it's a forgery. The content is quite accurate. The same goes for the documents that CBS presented. The memos are forgeries, but the contents are very accurate, as verified by the secretary who worked for YEARS with Killian. In order for the documents to be accepted as evidence, they MUST be the originals, and must be verifiable by anyone's expert. Wrong. CBS is publically eating crow because everyone on earth knows this. Except you. Wrong again! ding! That's two strikes, care to take another futile swing? Next! |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:23:21 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote:
Get real, Corky. This argument wouldn't stand up in a third grade debate class. I've got a piece of paper in a book here in my library that says it is the US Constitution, but it's a forgery. The content is quite accurate. The same goes for the documents that CBS presented. The memos are forgeries, but the contents are very accurate, as verified by the secretary who worked for YEARS with Killian. Ah HA HA HA HA HA, oh man, thanks for a good laugh. Once again, your words are prophetic: You are absolutely correct, your argument will not stand up even in a third grade debate. No one knows if the content of the memos is accurate or not. We have the testimony of an 86 year old woman who has stated that the memo's are definately fake. She conjectured that in her opinion, they accurately reflect the sentiment of her boss. In a court of law, this type of testimony is called "hearsay" evidence and is not allowed because it's opinion, not verifiable fact. Your third graders would recognize that even if you do not. In order for the documents to be accepted as evidence, they MUST be the originals, and must be verifiable by anyone's expert. Wrong. Well apparently CBS does not agree with you. CBS is publically eating crow because everyone on earth knows this. Except you. Wrong again! ding! That's two strikes, care to take another futile swing? Here's a couple of paragraphs from AP television writer David Bauder: "NEW YORK - CBS News apologized Monday for a "mistake in judgment" in its story questioning President Bush (news - web sites)'s National Guard service, claiming it was misled by the source of documents that several experts have dismissed as fakes. The network said it would appoint an independent panel to look at its reporting about the memos. The story has mushroomed into a major media scandal, threatening the reputations of CBS News and chief anchor Dan Rather." Further: "Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic, which is the only acceptable journalistic standard to justify using them in the report," Heyward said. "We should not have used them." CBS says it was an error in judgement to use the memo's because they could not be authenticated, and at HUGE expense to their nationwide and worldwide news reporting reputation, they publically apologized. But Juan Jimenez says it's ok to use the information anyway. Why am I not surprised? Corky (your words reveal your ethics) Scott |
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Juan Jimenez wrote:
Corky Scott wrote in : On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:49 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote: Marian Carr Knox, Corky. Killian's secretary, You know, the one who says the memos are forged, but also says the CONTENT of the memos is accurate? Sorry, taking the word of an 86 year old woman about something that may or may not have been in some peoples minds 32 years ago is not confirming anything. Oh, I get it, but taking her word that the memos are not real is? chuckle That's funny! Except this one remembers the Shrub very well, Corky. Extremely well, Which also shows that there's no reason why she would not remember her boss' frame of mind and comments about the Shrub. Is it your position that no 86 year old woman's recollection can be trusted? You do know that's not only sexist, it's a pretty dangerous position to take. Sorry, bubba, but you can't have it both ways. There's only one person alive who knows both those facts. You keep skewering yourself with your own words. You wish! CBS went to press with documents they now admit they cannot prove are authentic. Whether the content is or is not accurate doesn't mean anything because the documents are forgeries. Get real, Corky. This argument wouldn't stand up in a third grade debate class. I've got a piece of paper in a book here in my library that says it is the US Constitution, but it's a forgery. The content is quite accurate. The same goes for the documents that CBS presented. The memos are forgeries, but the contents are very accurate, as verified by the secretary who worked for YEARS with Killian. Why should we believe her over Killians own son? |
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Corky Scott wrote in
: Ah HA HA HA HA HA, oh man, thanks for a good laugh. Easily amused, the mark of a someone who walks into a battle of wits, unarmed. No one knows if the content of the memos is accurate or not. Wrong again. Marian Carr Knox knows. Keep swinging, you're bound to hit the ball sometime this week. We have the testimony of an 86 year old woman who has stated that the memo's are definately fake. And we have the testimony of the _same_ 86 year old woman who stated (not conjectured, not opined, not surmised, not imagined): "However, the information in those is correct." Well apparently CBS does not agree with you. ROFL! You wish! Further: "Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic, which is the only acceptable journalistic standard to justify using them in the report," Heyward said. "We should not have used them." Exactly. Thank you so much for walking right into that one and proving my point beyond a shadow of a doubt, They said they cannot prove the documents are authentic, not that the content of the documents are false. Keep swinging! Maybe next week, kiddo! |
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Jerry Springer wrote in
ink.net: Why should we believe her over Killians own son? Because Killian's son did not spend every day with his father at work, handling all his memos and interacting with him on every matter that came across his desk. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out, unless you have a hidden but very transparent agenda. |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:31:33 GMT, Juan Jimenez wrote:
Exactly. Thank you so much for walking right into that one and proving my point beyond a shadow of a doubt, They said they cannot prove the documents are authentic, not that the content of the documents are false. Keep swinging! Maybe next week, kiddo! I don't think so. I'm taking my own advice which I've offered many times before in regards anyone attempting intelligent conversation with you and halting my participation. Corky Scott |
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Jimenez wrote:
Exactly. Thank you so much for walking right into that one and proving my point beyond a shadow of a doubt, They said they cannot prove the documents are authentic, not that the content of the documents are false. Keep swinging! Maybe next week, kiddo! I don't think so. I'm taking my own advice which I've offered many times before in regards anyone attempting intelligent conversation with you and halting my participation. Corky Scott Just do what I did, set the filter to eliminate him! FLUSH the **** down the toilet. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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richard riley wrote in
: :Why should we believe her over Killians own son? And wife Who also didn't spend every day with him at the office. and commanding officer (Gen Hodges) Who only confirmed that the document was not authentic, not that the content was innacurate. and the retired General that was supposed to be pressuring them (Staudt). Who is refusing to comment on the matter. There's not a single piece of evidence or testimony that Bush got special treatment or didn't do what was required that hasn't been completely disproved. Wrong again. No evidence has been found that the Shrub showed up for duty in his Alabama Guard unit in the time that has been disputed. None. |
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