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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Check nav lights and rotating beacon
You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight. (And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.) Check electric fuel pump That's before take-off, on my checklist. Check flap operation Yep, those are down and inspected during the pre-flight. Sample fuel from each tank and from the gascalator Yep, that's part of it, too. (Guess I figured that was a "given"...) Touch everything inspected (not just look at it but touch it - how can you tell a nut is loose just by looking?). Roger that. Alternator belt is checked for freeplay I can't get at mine, sadly. Inspect tires and brakes (including exposed lines) Mine are under the "fancy pants" -- so all I can see is the bottom of the tires. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Jay Honeck wrote: It's a basic part of the preflight actions. I also spend a good 15-20 minutes walking around my airplane before every flight I do a thorough pre-flight inspection before every flight. Every control surface is checked for continuity, all four gas tanks are visually inspected, oil is checked, wheel pants are given a tug, prop is examined, stall indicator movement verified, every screw, bolt and connector is visually inspected... A preflight before every flight? I don't think so. Once a day. Check the stall warner? Every year at the annual. |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
How about checking the oil, and visually inspecting (dipping the tanks)
the fuel before every flight? Fuel guages aren't always trust-worthy, and I don't know that somebody hasn't siphoned fuel from my tanks while I was enjoying that $100 hamburger. 1st flight of the day... Always a thorough pre-flight inspection (including duats or wxbrief). If I stop somewhere for lunch, where the plane is out of my site for an hour or so... Walk-around, looking to see that nobody bumped into the bird while I was eating, dip the tanks, check the oil, and do a standard run-up and controls check. Day trip, where the plane has been sitting somewhere for an extended period of time... I treat it like the first flight of the day. I never take off, without dipping the tanks and checking the oil... Best Regards, Todd |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Mike wrote:
Thomas Borchert wrote: Bob, Obviously the current system isn't working well. So you didn't even check? And you do tha regularly? Jeeze, wtf do you expect? This makes what happened entirely your fault, I'm afraid. And, What's funny is the guy keeps saying he didn't know the President was in town. I think this is a case of not doing the pre-flight homework. I knew about the TFR two days before it went into effect. On an extended trip, a "pop-up" TFR can appear after you've checked NOTAMs prior to departure. The only way I can think of to avoid these is to be talking to ATC (e.g., under IFR or with flight following) during your flight. I'm not sure if the satellite service providers have enough notification to identify pop-up TFRs. While Bob and the pilot described in the news article Mike identified probably violated TFRs that were in a published NOTAM, a pop-up NOTAM can be difficult to avoid if you're flying VFR and are not talking to ATC. Also, I recall from an AOPA article that some TFRs are mobile. For example, there are TFRs over and around the president and the vice president no matter where they happen to be, including when they are moving. Their precise movements and positions are justifiably unpublished until the last possible moment for obvious reasons, and so these TFRs can also be difficult to avoid if you're not talking to ATC. I don't know if the satellite service providers find out about these in time, either. I think the days of taking off after merely checking the fuel tanks and kicking the tire, and flying VFR wherever interest leads us, are gone in large metropolitan areas. In my view, taking off without checking weather and NOTAMs is reckless behavior, whether in a metropolitan area or elsewhere. I think there's also an argument that not talking to ATC during flight in metropolitan areas is negligent behavior. By penetrating TFRs without ATC authorization, negligent pilots are making it all the easier for opponents of general aviation to make their case with Congress and others. In my opinion, we should: 1) Check weather and NOTAMs with FSS before EVERY flight; 2) talk to ATC by either filing and flying IFR or getting flight following; and 3) encourage every pilot you know to do the same. It may restrict the freedom we value so much, but will go a long way toward trying to ensure that we don't lose that freedom altogether. |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Newps wrote:
A preflight before every flight? I don't think so. Once a day. Check the stall warner? Every year at the annual. I do it once a day, unless the aircraft has been moved by ground handlers, then I spend an entire extra 15 minutes. A "three loop" preflight doesn't take more than 15 minutes on my Sundowner. Maybe an extra 3 is required if I need to clean the windshield. After removing the pitot cover & cowl plugs: Loop One (3 minutes) (start in cockpit): Record numbers Controls free and correct Master on Fuel pump on - chk pressure Fuel pump off All lights and pitot heat on - leave plane, chk all lights, strobes, pitot heat, stall horn Master off Flaps extended - leave for loop two Loop Two (10-12 mins)(grab GATS jar): Left flap Left Aileron Left Tip Sight Wing Left LE Left tie down (remove) Eyeball left fuel Drain fuel sample Check left wheel, tire & brake while cup fills Check sample, return to tank if OK Left Nose Nose Gear Spinner Prop Alternator Belt Cowl openings Check Oil & cover security Right Nose Drain gascolator Eyeball and check belly panels and antennae Eyeball right fuel Pour gascolator sample in right tank (if good) Pull right sample as I eyeball tire, wheel and brake Check Sample Right LE Right tie down Right Tip Sight wing skin Right Aileron Right Flap Right Static Port Right Stabilator Trim tab Eyeball fuselage skin (both sides) Rudder Tail tie down Left Stabilator Left Static port Toss GATS jar back in baggage area Secure baggage area Pull chock Loop Three (20 seconds) Walk around, viewing overall picture from 10-15 feet away Clean windshield (if necessary) Return to cockpit Retract flaps Stuff like the lights, stall horn, etc... take what, 5 seconds each to check during the first orbit? G This procedure takes almost as long to write out as it does to do, and automatically checks for ice, ground damage, stolen fuel, etc... Unless you're flying an airliner, where's the waste? |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:WFDdg.3821$1i1.3343@attbi_s72... Check nav lights and rotating beacon You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight. (And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.) Of course you check them on every flight. Your strobes are required even in daytime. And the other lights, well...would you rather learn they were inoperative when you don't need them, or just before you were planning to head out at night, thus forcing the flight to be scrubbed? Pete |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:WFDdg.3821$1i1.3343@attbi_s72... Check nav lights and rotating beacon You check them on EVERY flight? I only check those before a night flight. (And my rotating beacon was removed years ago, in lieu of strobes.) Of course you check them on every flight. Your strobes are required even in daytime. And the other lights, well...would you rather learn they were inoperative when you don't need them, or just before you were planning to head out at night, thus forcing the flight to be scrubbed? That is exactly why I check them before every flight, and also why I carry a spare 7512-12V in the little junk box in the back. -jav |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
Peter Duniho wrote: Your strobes are required even in daytime. So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr? |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
I guarantee you that in three minutes, you do NOT check "every screw, bolt
and connector". You are fooling yourself if you think that three minutes is sufficient time for a preflight inspection. Well, maybe it's my familiarity with the bird. No, I'm not checking the torque of every bolt, but I do use the fuel tester Phillips screw driver to check screws for tightness. And I always sump the tanks, and check the oil. Additionally, I visually inspect every control surface hinge and manually move each control surface, checking for proper hinge pin placement, etc. On my plane, it's not possible to "open the engine up" (like we used to do in our Warrior), so that saves me a bit of time, too. (Time I'd rather spend, quite frankly; our one-piece fiberglass cowl may look better than the Warriors, but I sure miss being able to visually inspect the engine before each flight.) I have no idea what could take more than 3 - 5 minutes, unless you find something suspicious. Hopefully, that's a rare occasion, indeed. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Busted TFR, what to expect?
The Visitor wrote:
Peter Duniho wrote: Your strobes are required even in daytime. So a Cub with no electrical system, can't fly day vfr? I think FAR 91.209 (b) covers this - IF the plane is equipped with anticollision lights they must lighted (unless the PIC determines in the interest of safety they should be turned off). So a plane not even equipped with them is naturally not required to light them! |
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