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Dave in San Diego wrote: There is a decent pic of the Neptune taking off from Midway he http://history.navy.mil/avh-1910/PART06.PDF go to pdf page 18, or document page 176 It, like the Coral Sea pic on the site Ralph cited above, doesn't show much in the way of markings, though. Dave in San Diego That seems to be because there hardly are any. They seem to be limited to the standard dark blue overall with straightforward national markings, navy titles, BuNo in white and on some aircraft a white tailcode. That's it. Rather dreary-looking compared to later markings on ASW-oriented Neptunes Regards, Ralph Savelsberg |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:38 +0000, Jerry Ennis wrote:
"The CIA and the U-2 Program, 1954-1974" is available in PDF format at http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/U2/u2.pdf. Modification of U-2s for carrier operations are discussed on pp. 247-251 and a photo showing markings is on p. 249. Great, this document goes a long way toward making the model buildable. Rob |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel
wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote: Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea (CV-47) in Jan '47, didn't you? Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there? Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the time? As always, thanks for any info. Rob Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander William Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger. I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in my research materials. Google turns up several websites that appear to have more info: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btnG= Search |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:04:39 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel
wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:18:23 -0500, John Keeney wrote: Oh yea, P-47s flown off in the PTO, complete with CAT launches. Projects like that are never ending. Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier. Rob ISTR that an active-duty carrier once hosted, while in port, a radio-controlled model aircraft event; I saw photos a long time ago. How would you build a scale model of a scale model? Oh, and don't forget the V-2 that was launched from the Midway... |
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"William Hughes" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote: Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea (CV-47) in Jan '47, didn't you? Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there? Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the time? As always, thanks for any info. Rob Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander William Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger. I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in my research materials. It was a post war Antarctic expedition and Admiral Byrd was a little more than a passenger he was the expedition head. CVN 77 was used to transport the ski-equipped R4D's (based on the C-47/Dakota airframe) to the Antarctic where they were used for aerial surveys Note the NeoNazi nuts over on r.a.m will tell you they were hunting for a sekrit SS Antarctic base Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:19:37 -0600, William Hughes
wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:01:33 +0100, in rec.aviation.military.naval Rob van Riel wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:40 -0600, William Hughes wrote: Uh, Rob? You did remember the R4Ds flown from the Philippine Sea (CV-47) in Jan '47, didn't you? Nope, I didn't (one of the reasons posting here is a good idea, you get reminded of all sorts of things). Any hints on what it was doing there? Testing for supply runs? Also, any idea what unit markings it bore at the time? As always, thanks for any info. Rob Six R4Ds were being transported to Little America, Antarctica, as part of something called "Operation High Jump". The pilot of #1 was Commander William Hawkes, with Admiral Richard Byrd as a passenger. I don't have much information on the event, just a couple of references in my research materials. Google turns up several websites that appear to have more info: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...&btnG= Search Contains an rather small grainy photo of the R4Ds on the carrier deck http://www.south-pole.com/philippine.htm Blue Skies Pat Carpenter |
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Rob van Riel wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:18:23 -0500, John Keeney wrote: Oh yea, P-47s flown off in the PTO, complete with CAT launches. Projects like that are never ending. Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier. Rob ....aaand some that won't too!...did you see the pic of the car that they launched from some carrier?...how in 'ell did they ever float that one by the hedshed?...imagine some crusty Admiral's question..."You want to catapult WHAT OFF MY DECK Lt?!?" -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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"John Keeney" wrote:
"Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . John Szalay wrote: Rob van Riel wrote in news Lots of info on this event has been posted here, but it leaves me with a smaal problem. I've gotten it into my head to build scale models of every type of post WWII plane that flew of the decks of US carriers, and now it turns out even the Herc qualifies for that. Can anyone help me with information about the squadron markings on this particular aircraft? The links in the various posts show pictures, but they're not very revealing in this respect. Thanks for any help Rob Make sure include the U-2 in that list.. ...aaand the B-52C (the C is for carrier of course) B-52N, Gord, B-52N... sigh The B-52C was an Air Force version, it was much discussed in RAM. Of course, 'N' dammit...I keep getting that wrong, The 'C and Carrier' association keeps frigging me up...now, is it 'N' for Nuckle (to indicate the nuckle in the wing that folds up to clear the island...shucks that's knuckle isn't it...damn...surely not Navy is it?...how unimaginative... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:39:55 +0000, Gord Beaman wrote:
Rob van Riel wrote: Didn't know about that one, but yes, there seems to be an overwhelming urge to get just about anyting that will fly to work from a carrier. ...aaand some that won't too!...did you see the pic of the car that they launched from some carrier?...how in 'ell did they ever float that one by the hedshed?...imagine some crusty Admiral's question..."You want to catapult WHAT OFF MY DECK Lt?!?" As I recal that was a publicity stunt to demonstrate the raw power of the catapults. A model T Ford that spent all of a mile in the air, wasn't it? Rob |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:03:10 +0100, Rob van Riel
postulated : As I recal that was a publicity stunt to demonstrate the raw power of the catapults. A model T Ford that spent all of a mile in the air, wasn't it? When I was in a Navy airgroup (CVG-6 in the Fifties), it was standard procedure to launch a concrete filled "wagon" off the cats after a carrier left Portsmouth , VA yards to test the cats. The weight was supposed to simulate an aircraft of the time. Difficult to plot the trajectory from the flight deck but they went "way" out before arcing down to the water. I would think that a Model T would disintegrate with the forces applied from a steam catapult. |
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