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Old February 8th 04, 02:10 AM
Tarver Engineering
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

An 80 cent Euro is far more attractive than a $1.20 one, as far as

Airbus
airplanes go.


Isn't a dollar worth less than 50p and still heading south for the
winter nowadays? Your president seems to have blown your economy while
you were napping.


The adjustment in exchange rates is about to stop.

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Old February 8th 04, 09:33 AM
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Ali Hopkins wrote:

So, as I asked previously, how come the Shuttle got built?

You're arguing that the space shuttle is a commercial airliner?


No.

Ali


The answer to your question is it got built with monies the government
budgeted for the space program.


and paid to contractors at over inflated prices like much of the US
governments spending in these areas. The $400 wrench is as much a subsidy as
anything else is. With the politicians funded out of these compnay profits,
you would have to either naive or stupid to believe that the government does
not reward the people who fund their election with fat juicy contracts.

Boeings civil business for example is being subsidised by the military
contracts. Lose the contracts you lose the jobs. You lose the jobs, you lose
the votes. You lose the votes you lose office. You lose office, you lose
the power. You lose the power then you are a regular citizen being shafted
by those it power. And its a bum deal.

Fat deals $500 wrenches (aint inflation a bitch) and whey, let the good
times roll.
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Old February 8th 04, 10:11 AM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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The Euro tanked, while the pound held above $1.60. If BA made their
purchase at the two euro to the Pound rate, they did very well on the

deal.
AI exists under a complicated interleaved set of money hedges.



What on earth are you talking about. The pound started at, what, 1.70 Euros
equivalence - I bought a stack at that level. Even given good forward Forex
buying, there is no way that BA could have hedged at two, especially given
the timing. And it's now at 1.43-ish or thereabouts.

Ali


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Old February 8th 04, 01:18 PM
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Steve Firth wrote:

Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

An 80 cent Euro is far more attractive than a $1.20 one, as far as
Airbus airplanes go.

Isn't a dollar worth less than 50p and still heading south for the
winter nowadays? Your president seems to have blown your economy while
you were napping.


The adjustment in exchange rates is about to stop.


Yes, and aeroplanes fly because the wings are held up by
little pink pixies.


I must say I've never quite understood *exactly* how lift worked,
but it's much clearer now. Thanks Steve.

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Pd
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Old February 8th 04, 01:24 PM
Ali Hopkins
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

An 80 cent Euro is far more attractive than a $1.20 one, as far as
Airbus airplanes go.

Isn't a dollar worth less than 50p and still heading south for the
winter nowadays? Your president seems to have blown your economy while
you were napping.


The adjustment in exchange rates is about to stop.


Yes, and aeroplanes fly because the wings are held up by little pink
pixies.


You forgot the glue; made with real harpic.

Ali


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Old February 8th 04, 04:09 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ali Hopkins" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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The Euro tanked, while the pound held above $1.60. If BA made their
purchase at the two euro to the Pound rate, they did very well on the

deal.
AI exists under a complicated interleaved set of money hedges.



What on earth are you talking about. The pound started at, what, 1.70

Euros
equivalence - I bought a stack at that level. Even given good forward

Forex
buying, there is no way that BA could have hedged at two, especially given
the timing. And it's now at 1.43-ish or thereabouts.


If BA and AI don't have a hedge in place, there will be much less interest
in the airplane deliveries.


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Old February 8th 04, 04:10 PM
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

An 80 cent Euro is far more attractive than a $1.20 one, as far as
Airbus airplanes go.

Isn't a dollar worth less than 50p and still heading south for the
winter nowadays? Your president seems to have blown your economy while
you were napping.


The adjustment in exchange rates is about to stop.


Yes, and aeroplanes fly because the wings are held up by little pink
pixies.


Do you work in Chirac's Government?


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Old February 8th 04, 04:14 PM
Ali Hopkins
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Ali Hopkins" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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The Euro tanked, while the pound held above $1.60. If BA made their
purchase at the two euro to the Pound rate, they did very well on the

deal.
AI exists under a complicated interleaved set of money hedges.



What on earth are you talking about. The pound started at, what, 1.70

Euros
equivalence - I bought a stack at that level. Even given good forward

Forex
buying, there is no way that BA could have hedged at two, especially

given
the timing. And it's now at 1.43-ish or thereabouts.


If BA and AI don't have a hedge in place, there will be much less interest
in the airplane deliveries.



I am quite sure that BA do have hedges in place. I am also quite sure that
they aren't at your imaginary rate of 2 Euros to the pound sterling. I doubt
that any forward spot trader would have offered anything close to even the
start rate of 1.70-ish. And, of course, they have already taken substantial
deliveries.

Ali


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Old February 8th 04, 04:16 PM
Ali Hopkins
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
Tarver Engineering wrote:

An 80 cent Euro is far more attractive than a $1.20 one, as far as
Airbus airplanes go.

Isn't a dollar worth less than 50p and still heading south for the
winter nowadays? Your president seems to have blown your economy

while
you were napping.

The adjustment in exchange rates is about to stop.


Yes, and aeroplanes fly because the wings are held up by little pink
pixies.


Do you work in Chirac's Government?



Ackserley, the UK dimwit is Bliar, not Chirac. You know, that "socialist"
that supports Shrub.

Ali


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Old February 8th 04, 08:28 PM
Mark Hickey
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"Ali Hopkins" wrote:

"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Do you work in Chirac's Government?


Ackserley, the UK dimwit is Bliar, not Chirac. You know, that "socialist"
that supports Shrub.


Yeah, Blair was too "dumb" to get deeply financially involved with
Sadaam. That meant Blair wasn't "smart enough" to want to keep Sadaam
in power to keep the money flowing.

OTOH, which one of the two lost a piece of their financial shorts when
the Baath government was sent packing? Heh.

Mark Hickey
 




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