This is killing me!!!

"steve.t" writes:

You would tip for parking if they were going to park you promptly (TIP:
To Insure Promptness). You would give a gratuity if you were especially
pleased with the service.

If this is what "tip" meant, wouldn't it properly be spelled "tep"?

Or do you think your gratuity goes straight into a policy from State
Farm?

Chris
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"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
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Not much, that's why the waitpeople depend on tips. If you
don't tip for decent service, you're being cheap.

It seems to me that patrons have to tip because the *restaurant*
employers are being cheap, and not paying a decent wage.

Tips have become "expected", regardless of quality of service,
as an additional surcharge.

I worked retail for 5 years, and never got tipped once (nor
did I expect it, that is not the customers' responsibility, IMO).
OTOH, cooks don't get tips, but servers do. What's fair
about that?

No, put the bill for the wages where they belong... on the
*employer*.

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Jeff Shirton jshirton at cogeco dot
ca

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but that God became a man." -- James White
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"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
...

Once at an airport, I had a lineguy lead me to a parking spot. After I
shut
down, he chocked the nosewheel and put a red mat outside my door for me to
step on. He asked if I needed fuel, which I didn't. He didn't stick
around,
so I assumed that he didn't want or expect a tip. I haven't been to many
big
airports, but the treatment there seemed tip-worthy to me.

Indeed.

And IMO, *that* should be the criterion for tipping, going out of your
way to provide extra-ordinary service. Not simply "tip me because I
did my job".

It seems to me that it would be very appropriate to (1) mention your
appreciation with his boss, and/or (2) recommend the place to others,
word-of-mouth.

-Trent

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and smitethee. - William Kershner
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Jay Honeck wrote:


Charging rent for less than a full
night falls into the realm of a fleabag, sleazy motel. (Although I suppose
the
experience might still be memorable! :-)

;^) Depends upon the co-pilot


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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:cXZKd.37248$eT5.12945@attbi_s51...

What would your response be if I came to your hotel, stayed for 90
minutes, and wanted a prorated bill rate cause I didnt stay until the
next
morning's checkout (lets say say I just wanted to catch my soap opera or
something outrageous.. in your Memphis Belle Suite.

It sure sounds like this is what is happening in Reno, and charging $15 to
park for 90 minutes will quickly and efficiently drive all the Spam Can
drivers away.

Kind of reminds me of the "fire your worst customers" strategy (see
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1423605,00.asp for a sample) that's
been getting out there in the past five years. It sounds good in principle
to quit serving markets that cost you 10% while only delivering 5% of
revenue. Sometimes it may even work. But businesses are like ecosystems- you
cut one part out and things you never thought about break, perhaps years
later.

-cwk.

"Chris Colohan" wrote in message
.. .

If this is what "tip" meant, wouldn't it properly be spelled "tep"?

Or do you think your gratuity goes straight into a policy from State
Farm?

Chris
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An widely used alternative definition of insure *is* synonymous with ensure,
assure, etc. Check any dictionary.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Allen" wrote in message
om...

Bringing me the food I ordered is not a service, that is what they
are
paid for.


What are they paid by the restaurant to bring your food to you?


What are the lineboys paid to come out in the rain, snow, heat/cold and
show
you where to park and help tiedown?


Nine bucks an hour. I answered your question, can you answer mine?


$5.15 /hour. A typical dinner out for my wife and I costs about $50.00. If
the server does a good job I tip him $10.00. If he waits on no other tables
during that hour he makes $15.15. If he has other tables then who knows
what he makes. That includes the U. S. government for tax purposes.

"Jeff Shirton" wrote in message
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snip
I worked retail for 5 years, and never got tipped once (nor
did I expect it, that is not the customers' responsibility, IMO).
OTOH, cooks don't get tips, but servers do. What's fair
about that?

I've worked retail for about the same as you, but I was making more than
minimum wage. Waitstaff make well below minimum wage and depend on tips to
make up the difference. A cook's base pay is governed by the minimum wage
law, so they get paid more than waitstaff, but the waitstaff can potentially
make much more than the cooks. If you had said that you worked as a waiter
for 5 years, then you'd have an argument there.

My wife was a waitress for a while. She made a pile of money, but only made
$2.35/hr. before tips. And, she had to share some of her tip money with the
bartender. There are some weird policies in restaurants that the patrons
never know about. We both gained a lot of respect for good waitpeople after
her tenure. It's harder than it looks.

No, put the bill for the wages where they belong... on the
*employer*.

I don't know, I like the thought that the waiter/waitress is working for ME.
Just imagine what kind of service you'd get in a restaurant if the waitstaff
was salaried. There would be no incentive for them to work for you, just as
long as the boss is happy, and he/she's not around most of the time.

I think the problem is that a lot of people have never waited tables and
don't know how the game works. Waiters and waitresses are really working for
YOU, so you should pay them accordingly. You are in charge here. If your
waiter does a lousy job, tip very little (more insulting than not tipping at
all) AND complain to the manager. But, if you get decent to great service,
you're just being cheap if you don't tip. Either that, or you are ignorant
to the facts I just outlined.

Now, about linespeople, *I* am ignorant about that.

-Trent
PP-ASEL

"Joe Johnson" writes:
An widely used alternative definition of insure *is* synonymous with ensure,
assure, etc. Check any dictionary.

I looked it up in Webster's and the OED. They seem to agree that the
common usage of each word is slightly different, but they are synonyms
for all intensive purposes.

....and I has always given them different meanings in my head. Thank
you, I learned something today. :-)

Btw, my web searching reveals that someone has written an article on
the origins of the word "tip":
http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.htm

Chris
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"Chris Colohan" wrote in message
.. .
"Joe Johnson" writes:
An widely used alternative definition of insure *is* synonymous with
ensure,
assure, etc. Check any dictionary.

I looked it up in Webster's and the OED. They seem to agree that the
common usage of each word is slightly different, but they are synonyms
for all intensive purposes.


perhaps "for all intended puposes"?