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Old March 5th 07, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Kraus
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Default Taking the pledge

Me too... I said several months ago that I was done with Anthony and I
haven't missed him at all..

Pledge my ass... Silliest thing I ever heard...

Anthony seems to live rent-free in the head of several member's of this
distinguished group.... Pretty freakn' sad...

Peter R. wrote:


Welcome to the other side. I have been doing this, sans pledge, for several
months now and see no reason to ever deviate from the promised path.

aye-choo.

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Old March 5th 07, 12:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Taking the pledge

Anthony seems to live rent-free in the head of several member's of this
distinguished group.... Pretty freakn' sad...


Agreed.

I'm more concerned about that aspect of MX then I am about his posts.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 5th 07, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Anthony seems to live rent-free in the head of several member's of this
distinguished group.... Pretty freakn' sad...


Agreed.

I'm more concerned about that aspect of MX then I am about his posts.


I also find it interesting how different people react to him. However, like
you, what concerns me is how he's driving good, quality participants away
from the rec.aviation groups. The quality of the posters define the group.
Without them, it's dead--simple as that. We've all worked hard to make this
forum what it is today and it will disappointing to see it go away.

Marco


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Old March 4th 07, 09:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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Default Taking the pledge

On Mar 3, 11:49 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



From my observation, there has been more posts _about_ MX by other

people than his posts. His questions are about aviation, albeit
irritating, but others' posts about him have little to do with
aviation (ie lets vandalize his website; lets get even, etc..).

Honestly, I am a bit surprised by the negative reaction from others,.
It seems to be that some pilots find his questions which are
uncharacteristic of a nonpilot to be threatening. There have been
cases when he was right and the responding pilots were wrong, yet he
got lambasted for asking such simple questions and arguing with the
responders.


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Old March 4th 07, 11:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave[_3_]
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Ummm..

Will 2 out of 3 do?

I still must reserve the right to respond to whom I wish..

Dave


On 3 Mar 2007 20:49:29 -0800, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...


  #6  
Old March 5th 07, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
601XL Builder
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Default Taking the pledge

Jay Honeck wrote:
Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I'm in.
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Old March 5th 07, 04:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gene Seibel
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On Mar 3, 10:49 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


I have no problem ignoring MX's posts - if I want to.

I have no problem ignoring the dozens whining about his posts - if I
want to.

I have no problem ignoring the dozens who think their approach is
better - if I want to.

I have no problem ignoring the 90% of the posts on this group that are
of no interest to me.

Before everyone starts thinking how all-fired important it is what
they think and what goes on here, it might be good to realize that
probably 700,000 + pilots in this country don't even know this group
exists and they get along just fine.

I only pledge to keep flying.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


  #8  
Old March 5th 07, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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Default Taking the pledge

"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
ups.com...

Before everyone starts thinking how all-fired important it is what
they think and what goes on here, it might be good to realize that
probably 700,000 + pilots in this country don't even know this group
exists and they get along just fine.


FYI, there are a little less than 600K pilots in this country...

No one is going to commit suicide if this group goes away. Your post has a
condescending tone so I must ask why you participate in this group if you
think it is of such little importance.

Public forums are only as good as the participants' contributions. The
groups encompassing r.a.piloting, r.a.owning, r.a.student, and r.a.ifr are
some of the most active and appreciated groups in the system. It became that
way because the posters [in general] spend lots of time to craft thoughtful,
on-topic, and courteous posts that allow others to learn a little something
and keep everyone coming back. You've posted many quality, though-provoking
posts to these groups Gene, so you've helped create these groups as well. I
would think that time you spent has been of some value to you.

When a single poster creates such a disturbence (rightly or wrongly) that it
drives many--if not most--of the quality posters away, the folks who've
spent that time to make these groups what they are have a legitimate gripe.

Losing quality participants is equivalent to killing the group. The
different reactions we see from all these folks are just the different ways
that people fight for what is of value to them.

Marco


  #9  
Old March 5th 07, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Aluckyguess
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Default Taking the pledge

Get a life.
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



  #10  
Old March 5th 07, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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Default Taking the pledge

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...
Get a life.


Anyone who knows Jay either through this forum or has met him in person
knows that he has not only a life, but a pretty fulfilling one at that. If
there's anyone living the "American Dream," it's Jay.

Although I'm not sure if he's got a white picket fence around his house...

I guess you're one of those people that still think interaction using the
internet as a medium is not actually "real" but just imagined.

Marco


 




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