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Old April 27th 07, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Actually, the problem is that the communications industry is
controlled by only a handful of large corporations, and thus what gets
reported must not taint the image of any of their holdings.


There are plenty of uncontrolled blogs. While they are also unvetted,
some would say that's a good thing. I agree that big corporations have
an unhealthy influence on our perceptions, but it is not all that well
hidden.

Please explain how the audience can decide on having news of which
they are unaware reported.


By choosing which channels to watch. By choosing channels that do =not=
feature the lastest sex scandal or UFO visitation. By subscribing to
significant intellectual communications rather than fluff. They'll get
the message. Right now the message is that we want bread and circuses.
So, that's what they dish out.

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Old April 27th 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Does your knowing that Cho butchered a bunch of innocent kids change
one thing? Do you feel better knowing all the details of his deranged
spoutings and savagery? Does your knowing change anything?


Does (the general public) knowing how silly the ADIZ and FRZ really is
change anything?

I think it might.

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Old April 27th 07, 04:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:43:21 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Don Tabor" wrote

Actually, I am gathering signatures to run for the 14th Senate
District in Virginia this fall as the Libertarian Party candidate.


While I applaud your attempt at doing something worthwhile, I can't help but
think how futile your effort will be.

Being a third party in a two party system will at most mean you get to break
a tie in a few close issues.


You may be right, but I have chosen my target carefully.

The incumbent is an unopposed RINO who sides with the Democrat
governor consistently in opposition to the GOP House of Delegates.
Much of the GOP base is disaffected with him. However, the district is
so conservative, the Democrats don't even run a candidate.

That will allow me, as a Libertarian to run to the "right" of my
opponent on taxes, gun laws, government spending and other
conservative issues, while also running to his "left" on issues of
personal liberty and pick up the Democrat votes. (Note: the LP
position is not really left or right of anything, we are really
individual vs collective on everything, but right and left are
understood better.)

I will either squeeze him out from both sides, or **** off everybody,
which I am sure you know by now, doesn't much bother me.

Don
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Old April 27th 07, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:


Actually, the problem is that the communications industry is
controlled by only a handful of large corporations, and thus what gets
reported must not taint the image of any of their holdings.



What would you rather have it controlled by... the Government?
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Old April 27th 07, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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[gatt] Say "Hang on. I need to go ask permission to go with you."

Ok, that's reasonable. That was not the message I took away from the
video I saw, which was to run screaming.

I guess I didn't make myself clear. These kids after being taught safety for
a week were willing to not just talk to me but walk away from the play
ground into the parking lot where I could have easily stuck them in a car an
driven away.


It wasn't clear, but that was because I read too quickly. What I take
away from this is that five year olds are hard to teach behavior to.
This is not surprising - it is why it takes so long to raise children.
I suspect it comes down to a perception of safety. Kids percieve adults
to be safe, not dangerous. For the most part, they are right.

My impression (in general) is that our "safety conscious culture" is
going a bit overboard, and that this will have (is having) long term
adverse consequences. And although children are not little airplanes,
the same kind of thinking applies to them too. (just to bring it on topic)

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Old April 27th 07, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Five year olds should be supervised by a parent. Anything less is
irresponsible.


I've heard the same about fifteen year olds.

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Old April 27th 07, 06:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2007-04-26 10:24:04 -0700, "gatt" said:


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...

So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number
from 33.4% to 90%?

A friend of mine who is a Statistics instructor regularly dismantles
figures
such as these. The US economic system is too complex to say offhand
"this
percentage owns this percentage"; it depends on how you derive your data
and
how it is organized.


Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the
statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary.


Note: I'm not Larry.



-c


Thank goodness! He probably prefers to his own image in the mirror
rather than yours. :-)


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Old April 27th 07, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-04-27 05:31:30 -0700, Larry Dighera said:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:17:04 -0400, Jose
wrote in :

If you don't like what you choose to watch, turn off the TV.
And what of the news you'd like to watch, but because it may have a
negative impact on the news media's parent company, it isn't reported?


Then watch the news on a different channel.

Actually, the problem isn't so much that the news reporting is
"controlled" by media companies, but rather, that news reporting is
under the entertainment division and not the journalism division.


Actually, the problem is that the communications industry is
controlled by only a handful of large corporations, and thus what gets
reported must not taint the image of any of their holdings.


And yet, they still let people like Don Imus and Rosie O'Donnell on the air.

They must have a peculiar idea of what will give them a bad image.
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Old April 27th 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:
"ManhattanMan" wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

There was a game show on the aire a few years ago did the same
thing. It was really funny to watch until I started thinking about
the fact that those idiot's votes counted as much as mine did.

And look what it got us........

Just before the 1996 elections, CATO Institute did a survey of how
much people knoew about government power (Constitution, structure of
government, spending practices...). The results were telling by self-
identified groups:
(Rough estimates)

Democrats: 25%
Republicans: 55%
Independents: 60%
Libertarians: 85+%


That doesn't surprise me at all, especially the Libertarians. They are a
group that think enough about politics to seek out a third party that more
closely fits their views. To bad that that same group can't get it
together enough to actually field a successful candidate for any national
office.

Quite!

But without a huge benefactor, they have a significant uphill battle.

Many surveys show a large share of people have libertarian leanings; they
just don't want to vote for them.

It has been pointed out quite often that if, today, you had a ticket of
Jefferson/Madison, they wouldn't get past the primaries, if they made it
that far.


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Old April 27th 07, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Don Tabor" wrote in message
...

You may be right, but I have chosen my target carefully.

The incumbent is an unopposed RINO who sides with the Democrat
governor consistently in opposition to the GOP House of Delegates.
Much of the GOP base is disaffected with him. However, the district is
so conservative, the Democrats don't even run a candidate.

That will allow me, as a Libertarian to run to the "right" of my
opponent on taxes, gun laws, government spending and other
conservative issues, while also running to his "left" on issues of
personal liberty and pick up the Democrat votes. (Note: the LP
position is not really left or right of anything, we are really
individual vs collective on everything, but right and left are
understood better.)

Sounds like the Libertarian that ran against the otherwise unopposed Jeff
Flake in Arizona. He got around 20%.



 




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