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Now that my son is taking flight lessons, I'm letting him fly in
(Read: Mary is relinquishing) the front seat more often. This plants him squarely in front of our panel-docked Garmin 496, the latest-and- greatest portable GPS from Garmin. We've flown behind this unit since OSH '06, and he has heard us discussing its quirks and limitations, but he's never had any first- hand experience programming it. Remember, the boy is 16 years old, and has almost literally grown up with a Playstation/X-Box/PC game controller in his hands. His thumbs are highly over-developed, from 10 million hours of video-game playing, and he is turning into an absolute whiz with computers. In short, he is an expert on all things that use graphics. After working the 496 for a few flights, with all of its bizarre hiccups (I.E.: The screen completely disappears when you slew the cursor across the screen) and horrible graphics (displayed on a postage-stamp-sized screen), his priceless comment was: "If Microsoft built the X-Box the way Garmin built the 496, they'd have sold about five of them..." And you know what? He's absolutely right. We pilots were so desperate for in-cockpit weather that we willingly paid $3000 (!) for a $250 dollar unit that performs worse than a video game. BTW: If you've never played with an X-Box, or a Sony Playstation game platform, this post won't make any sense to you -- which is precisely what Garmin was counting on. Go out and borrow your kids (or grand- kids) game unit for a couple of hours, and see what REAL graphics capability looks like. (And if you want to see how hand-held graphical displays *should* perform, borrow their PSP handheld Playstation unit.) I sure hope Garmin steps up to the plate, performance-wise, with their (much anticipated) new product at OSH... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
"If Microsoft built the X-Box the way Garmin built the 496, they'd have sold about five of them..." But they have very few engineering requirements in common: One has to run on batteries as long as possible (i.e. low power draw), include radio receivers, be as small as reasonably possible, and must come with its own display. The other can draw as much power as it needs, has no physical size constraints on human interfaces, and requires an external display that must be supplied by the user. The closest comparable consumer products with equivalent engineering requirements that comes to my mind is the just-released iPhone and notebook/tablet computers. |
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. . Jay Honeck wrote: The closest comparable consumer products with equivalent engineering requirements that comes to my mind is the just-released iPhone Which has also received a bagging in all the reviews I've heard, due to outdated operating systems and the like. Crash Lander -- http://straightandlevel1973.spaces.live.com/ I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong! |
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One has to run on batteries as long as possible (i.e. low power draw),
include radio receivers, be as small as reasonably possible, and must come with its own display. That's why I mentioned the Sony PSP. Google it -- it's basically a 496-sized game platform. Put a moving map GPS on THAT screen, and we'll all have something to crow about. Add weather, and Garmin will fade to black. Won't happen, of course. But hey, I can dream. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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The closest comparable consumer products with equivalent engineering
requirements that comes to my mind is the just-released iPhone and notebook/tablet computers. Hell, forget Iphone, pick any mobile phone released in the last 5 years, they're all running 120-400 mhz Arm Chips, which any decent programmer worth their salt should be able to make sing. I'm a mobile software engineer... And I can assure you that what you guys are seeing is scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of what these boards are capable of- hell, we give our mainline game programmers three days to do the menus of their games, and the stuff they come up with wipes the floor with what I've seen from most handheld avionics. To me it just smacks of pure lack of will, they take the basic, designed-in-one-hour engineering interface and pass it off as a consumer product because they know they can. |
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I'm a mobile software engineer... And I can assure you that what you
guys are seeing is scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of what these boards are capable of- hell, we give our mainline game programmers three days to do the menus of their games, and the stuff they come up with wipes the floor with what I've seen from most handheld avionics. To me it just smacks of pure lack of will, they take the basic, designed-in-one-hour engineering interface and pass it off as a consumer product because they know they can. THANK YOU! I'm glad my son and I aren't the only ones who see this. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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EridanMan wrote:
The closest comparable consumer products with equivalent engineering requirements that comes to my mind is the just-released iPhone and notebook/tablet computers. Hell, forget Iphone, pick any mobile phone released in the last 5 years, they're all running 120-400 mhz Arm Chips, which any decent programmer worth their salt should be able to make sing. I'm a mobile software engineer... And I can assure you that what you guys are seeing is scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of what these boards are capable of- hell, we give our mainline game programmers three days to do the menus of their games, and the stuff they come up with wipes the floor with what I've seen from most handheld avionics. To me it just smacks of pure lack of will, they take the basic, designed-in-one-hour engineering interface and pass it off as a consumer product because they know they can. They are systems are under utilized for one reason, dependability.I have to restart my Razor at least once a day and it will, at least twice a week, just shut down on it own. |
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On 7/6/2007 2:19:49 PM, Jay Honeck wrote:
"If Microsoft built the X-Box the way Garmin built the 496, they'd have sold about five of them..." It appears MS may have. From C|Net's news: "Microsoft to extend Xbox 360 warranty, take $1 billion hit" http://tinyurl.com/2x98ov -- Peter |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... After working the 496 for a few flights, with all of its bizarre hiccups (I.E.: The screen completely disappears when you slew the cursor across the screen) and horrible graphics (displayed on a postage-stamp-sized screen), his priceless comment was: "If Microsoft built the X-Box the way Garmin built the 496, they'd have sold about five of them..." And if Garmin was as reliable as Microsoft, the majority of the pilot population would be dead right now! :~} And you know what? He's absolutely right. We pilots were so desperate for in-cockpit weather that we willingly paid $3000 (!) for a $250 dollar unit that performs worse than a video game. Well, Jay, why don't you lug a X-Box and a 27" TV around with you in the cockpit? :~) {titter} |
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On Jul 6, 2:49 pm, "Matt Barrow" wrote:
And if Garmin was as reliable as Microsoft, the majority of the pilot population would be dead right now! :~} :-) Hysterical!!! (and so true...) |
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