$16,619.85

writes:

That's just not true. Unless you are homeless and have no education,
its not such a big deal to at least learn to fly.

Then why do so few people do it? In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one percent
of the population learns to fly.

I know a few teenage kids at my local airport who earned their
PPLs with just a part time job at the FBO during the summers.

How many teenage kids are willing to go to that extreme just to learn to fly?

It can be done and its actually a cake if you have a college education.

Why would a college education make it easier?

$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

That's just not true. Unless you are homeless and have no education,
its not such a big deal to at least learn to fly.

Then why do so few people do it? In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one
percent of the population learns to fly.

Wrong again.


I know a few teenage kids at my local airport who earned their
PPLs with just a part time job at the FBO during the summers.

How many teenage kids are willing to go to that extreme just to learn
to fly?

Anyone that realy wants to.


It can be done and its actually a cake if you have a college
education.

Why would a college education make it easier?

Jesus wept.

$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

So what?

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

That's just not true. Unless you are homeless and have no education,
its not such a big deal to at least learn to fly.

Then why do so few people do it? In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one percent
of the population learns to fly.

In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one percent of the population learns to play
golf, play the guitar, or do needle point.

What's your point other than you're homeless and have no education?

I know a few teenage kids at my local airport who earned their
PPLs with just a part time job at the FBO during the summers.

How many teenage kids are willing to go to that extreme just to learn to fly?

Only you would think a teenage kid getting a summer job is "extreme".

It can be done and its actually a cake if you have a college education.

Why would a college education make it easier?

People with a college education tend to make more money than uneducated
people like you.

$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

Nor do they go to Asia, Fiji, the Bahamas, or lots of other places.

What's your point other than you can't afford to go anywhere?

--
Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote
I know a few teenage kids at my local airport who earned their
PPLs with just a part time job at the FBO during the summers.

How many teenage kids are willing to go to that extreme just to learn to
fly?

At 16 I worked full time for ~$100/week, then spend $60/hr on my precious
one lesson a week ($1 per minute dual!). By 17 I was earning $160/wk and
spending $120/wk flying. Went without a car (or girlfriend) till I had my
PPL.

Btw, that was in the early 80's here in Australia. No car or girlfriend is
pretty extreme I guess ......

Currently:
- Tomahawk or C150 rents for dual $213/hr (US$187), solo $130/hr (US$114)
- Cherokee dual is $253/hr (US$223), solo ~$168.hr (US$148).

A PPL in the Land of Oz is between $12k - $15k, about the same as a second
hand 3 y/o car. Or half the price of a good ski boat. Priorities.


Cheers,

David

--
There are 10 types of people in this world - those who use binary, and those
who don't.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

Then why do so few people do it? In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one
percent
of the population learns to fly.

Because most of the population is too stupid to learn to fly. It takes
intelligence to get a PPL. Those who don't fly are clearly inferior.

I know a few teenage kids at my local airport who earned their
PPLs with just a part time job at the FBO during the summers.

How many teenage kids are willing to go to that extreme just to learn to
fly?


Only the few with the brains


It can be done and its actually a cake if you have a college education.

Why would a college education make it easier?

It's a test to see if you're smart enough to fly.


$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

If they aren't smart enough to fly, they can go to Europe. I hear France
accepts sub-standard Americans.

On Dec 31, 4:42 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

It's worth remembering earning a pilots license is less expensive
than, for instance, leaving the US to live in, say, Paris.

And many more in the US learn to fly than abandon this country to live
in, say, Paris.

Tina wrote in news:6bdda8ae-296b-436f-aa83-
:

On Dec 31, 4:42 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


$5k or even $10k is not that
much in the grand scheme of things these days. That would be the cost
of a vacation trip to Europe for a family of 4.

Most families of four never go to Europe.

It's worth remembering earning a pilots license is less expensive
than, for instance, leaving the US to live in, say, Paris.

Maybe not, the difference in the price of peanut butter there could pay
back the pirce of the ticket in less than a single lifetime..


From anthony@... Mon Nov 04 04:51:30 2002
To:
References:
Subject: [Laid Off Land] What have you cut back?
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:51:26 +0100


I don't know how to cook, but I discovered that house brands of canned
ravioli cost only $0.65, and pound cake costs only $1.09. The ravioli
provides 450 kcal or so, and the pound cake provides 872. The two of
these, with glasses of whole milk (215 kcal per glass, and $0.80 per
litre, with 3 glasses per litre), provide almost 1800 kcal for about $2
per day, which isn't too bad.

Still, groceries are actually a fairly minor expense compared to things
like rent. If you cannot pay for groceries, there's no way you can pay
rent or mortgage, but if you can pay rent or mortgage, there's always
enough left over to buy some food.

writes:

In the U.S., less than 1/10 of one percent of the population learns to play
golf, play the guitar, or do needle point.

I don't have figures for those hobbies, although I know that golf is extremely
expensive.

Only you would think a teenage kid getting a summer job is "extreme".

I don't think that. But a teenager getting a summer job just to pay for
flying lessons is extremely unusual.

People with a college education tend to make more money than uneducated
people like you.

From what I've seen, the advantages of a college education are debatable,
after you adjust for years of lost revenue and the cost of repaying loans.

Nor do they go to Asia, Fiji, the Bahamas, or lots of other places.

True.

Snapper writes:

At 16 I worked full time for ~$100/week, then spend $60/hr on my precious
one lesson a week ($1 per minute dual!). By 17 I was earning $160/wk and
spending $120/wk flying. Went without a car (or girlfriend) till I had my
PPL.

Sounds like quite a bit of sacrifice.

Btw, that was in the early 80's here in Australia. No car or girlfriend is
pretty extreme I guess ......

For most teenagers, yes.

nobody writes:

Because most of the population is too stupid to learn to fly. It takes
intelligence to get a PPL. Those who don't fly are clearly inferior.

It doesn't take that much intelligence, particularly when most instruction
relies on rote learning rather than application of theory. Rote learning
makes it possible to teach anyone anything, in time.

If they aren't smart enough to fly, they can go to Europe. I hear France
accepts sub-standard Americans.

It's even harder to get a license in France than it is in the U.S. And the
rewards are fewer.