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in article 8fsFb.173873$_M.793161@attbi_s54, Cindy at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:00 AM:

To American people, everyone who criticizes Americans is racists. They
have to be so very sensitive with other races and ethnic groups.
That's how they were taught, and anything else is considered "bigotry"
or "racism", and it's a taboo behavior. Don't forget the well known
terminology, "discrimination". You'll be sued for this. Then, they try
to enforce their racial rules to other nations such as Japan. They are
so confident because they believe that Americans have the most correct
way of thinking in the world. However, there is a curriculum in
schools, job training, leadership school, and so on to warn the trainees
to be aware of -- "Ethnocentrism is not what Americans want". So, there
seems to be a little hope. Some Americans will be timely updated, but
some Americans will remain ethnocentric.

What caused all this bitterness against Americans? Your American husband
dump you? (You did state previously you married an American)

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:26 AM:


the US remade japan in their own image


Do you realize how racist that statement is? It assumes that Japanese
culture is the same as US culture because the Japanese don't have a strong
culture of their own. That shows not only a remarkable ignorance on your
part but an innate racism against Asian cultures.

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:35 AM:

I did not find it so taboo in America..
it is the most racist country I have ever been to and I have ravelled
the world some..

You have RAVELLED the world. I am unfamiliar with the term "ravelled" but if
you are going it to the world, it is probably not good.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:59:25 +0000, jake wrote:


but the Japanese military had already been defeated..

Not in the least, jake. The Japanese were preparing to repel what was
to have been the largest amphibious invasion ever untaken. To do so,
the IJA and IJN were holding in reserve over 7000 aircraft, and
hundreds of suicide submarines. In addition, suicide corps were being
trained to undertake such tasks as attacking any Allied landing craft
as they approached the beaches. Based on the kamikaze success rate at
Okinawa - 1 of every 4 kamikaze hit a target - it was believed even
then that the successive waves of suicide aircraft would damage at
least 25% of the 400-some Allied ships that were to be assembled off
Kyushu in November, 1945, for the first invasion of the Japanese home
islands.

Add to the 3 million IJA troops being held in reserve within Japan the
1 million or so Kwangtung Army troops being transferred back to Japan
from Manchuria, plus an armed militia of 35 million civilians being
trained as a second line of beach defense.

None of this information is new. It was reported and published in a
number of periodicals right after the war, including the Saturday
Evening Post and this, from the Atlantic Monthly in 1946:

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/46dec/compton.htm

The nuclear bombs were dropped for other reasons than military..

Nagasaki was chosen as a target almost randomly by the pilot
because of weather conditions..on the strength of it having a
Mitsubushi factory there..

Random? How so? Nagasaki was the DESIGNATED alternate target to
Kokura. Nothing was random in the least when it came to dropping the
atomic bombs.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:08:00 GMT, Cindy wrote:


I read John Dower's "Embracing Defeat". Hey, you got to be proud of
your country for this service. Sex gave the Japanese fantasy,
daydreaming, and probably a lot of babies after the defeat. Pan pan
girls were able to make money off the American GIs. Strip shows were
first introduced in Asakusa and were the major success. Western women
were considered to be a sex symbol. Sex was far better than committing
suicide, after all. You didn't know that, did you?

Cindy, if you read Dower's book, then you no doubt also read that the
Japanese government funded an organization that created the post-war,
occupation system of prostitution in Japan -- including the largest
brothel, known as "Willow Run," in Tokyo. Also, strip shows were
available years before the war ended. Dancers at the Nichigeki
Theater, near Ginza, was showing bare breasts as early as the 1920s.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:19:40 +0000, jake wrote:

The US introduced a nightmare

Um, not really. Have you not heard of "comfort women?"

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 5:23 PM:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:35:14 +0900, Ernest Schaal
wrote:

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:26 AM:


the US remade japan in their own image


Do you realize how racist that statement is?

nope..
race has nothing to do with the drive for cultural hegonomy

Sorry, but your bigotry is showing. You didn't state that there was a drive
for cultural hegemony. Instead you stated that US "remade japan in their own
image," which means that there is no separate Japanese identity that
remained. The only way that could occur (which it didn't, by the way) is
that the Asians do not have a strong culture and are easily malleable to be
molded as the US saw fit. That assumption is extremely insulting of Japan,
and Asian cultures in the whole, and shows your inherent racism against
Asian cultures.

jake wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:38:14 +0900, Ernest Schaal
wrote:

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:35 AM:

I did not find it so taboo in America..
it is the most racist country I have ever been to and I have ravelled
the world some..

You have RAVELLED the world. I am unfamiliar with the term "ravelled" but if
you are going it to the world, it is probably not good.

has nobody ever taught you that spelling and typo flames are real
lame?

Especially when you make errors while doing so...
--

-Gord.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:39:38 GMT, Gord wrote:

Especially when you make errors while doing so...

Tradishunally, spelling flames are supposed to contain spelling errors.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

in article , jake at
wrote on 12/22/03 11:14 AM:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:41:25 +0900, Ernest Schaal
wrote:

she is held to a higher standard.

really..?

thata why you were calling her foul nanes I suppose?

what makes you start to imagine that YOU are in any position to
morally judge others?

Although I consider you an ignorant bigot, your question does deserve a
serious answer. What makes me start to imagine that I am in any position to
morally judge others?

The simple answer is that I consider myself morally superior to you, in that
unlike you I am capable of learning new fact and modifying my opinions when
faced with the truth of those facts. You, on the other hand, have formed
erroneous opinions about Japan and won't let a little thing like the truth
get in the way of those opinions. Your opinion that, prior to the American
occupation, the Japanese did not know prostitution or pornography are
exemplary of your refusal to modify your opinions in view of reality.

A fuller answer is that, unlike you, I am capable limiting my judgments to
the facts, rather than my prejudices. Notice that while I correctly pointed
out that you are a devoutly ignorant bigot, I did not accuse you of things
were not guilty of. For instance, I did not accuse you hypocrisy, since I
realize that you probably believe the nonsense you preach. Also, I did not
accuse Cindy of being ignorant, like you are, since I realize from many
previous threads that she knows better.

Furthermore, it is human nature to judge. You are very judgmental, even
though your judgments are based upon ignorance and bigotry.