"Cluster bombs called 'war crime'"

Cluster bombs called 'war crime'
Britain's use of cluster bombs in Iraq, similar to the ones used by the
United States military, is a "war crime" and should be referred to the
International Criminal Court (ICC) for prosecution, academics, lawyers and
human rights activists in London said earlier this week.
at http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...3737-4342r.htm

Why did the lawyers not sue Saddam Hussein first? Or the late Soviet leaders
for the the Soviet Union's 1956 Invasion of Hungary? the 1968 Invasion of
Czechoslovakia; and the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan? Will the late Yuri
Andropov and Leonid Brezhnev be labeled as war criminals in historical
terms?

Mike Yared" wrote in message
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Why did the lawyers not sue Saddam Hussein first? Or the late Soviet
leaders
for the the Soviet Union's 1956 Invasion of Hungary? the 1968 Invasion of
Czechoslovakia; and the 1979 invasion of Afghanistan? Will the late Yuri
Andropov and Leonid Brezhnev be labeled as war criminals in historical
terms?

Sure, let's put them all on trial. Let's also include the US President
responsible for dropping the atomic bombs, the US President responsible for
carpet bombing, napalm and agent orange in Vietnam. US hypocrisy never
ceases to amaze me.

Rats, may ask if you think that the greater loss of life that would have
resulted from a direct invasion of Japan would have a been a better
alternative?

cypher745 wrote:
Rats, may ask if you think that the greater loss of life that would have
resulted from a direct invasion of Japan would have a been a better
alternative?

Not to mention how many would have come home alive but with severe
injuries. There was a batch of around 500,000 Purple Hearts made in 1945
in anticipation of the invasion of Japan. This batch lasted through
Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm and everything else along the way. AIUI, no
new ones were manufactured until 2000.

Cheers
David

To be honest, I was refering to the Japanese casaulties that would have
numbered in the millions. But your point is well taken.

Subject: "Cluster bombs called 'war crime'"
From: "cypher745"
Date: 1/24/04 10:04 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

To be honest, I was refering to the Japanese casaulties that would have
numbered in the millions. But your point is well taken.


If the never attacked Pearl Harbor, there would have been no casualities.




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

cypher745 wrote in message
m...
Rats, may ask if you think that the greater loss of life that would
have
resulted from a direct invasion of Japan would have a been a better
alternative?


You think Rats considers vast American casualties a downside to any
decision? That's icing on the cake for his type.

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"cypher745" wrote in message
m...
Rats, may ask if you think that the greater loss of life that would have
resulted from a direct invasion of Japan would have a been a better
alternative?

Umm, what the **** are you going on about? This is about cluster bombs being
used indiscriminately and killing civilians. Those accountable should be
punished for their actions. The original poster said that Saddam and co
should be sued as well. To this I agreed and also added the US presidents
he'd conveniently left out.

Subject: "Cluster bombs called 'war crime'"
From: "Rats"
Date: 1/25/04 2:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"cypher745" wrote in message
om...
Rats, may ask if you think that the greater loss of life that would have
resulted from a direct invasion of Japan would have a been a better
alternative?

Umm, what the **** are you going on about? This is about cluster bombs being
used indiscriminately and killing civilians. Those accountable should be
punished for their actions. The original poster said that Saddam and co
should be sued as well. To this I agreed and also added the US presidents
he'd conveniently left out.



Hey Rats, ever been to war?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

This is about cluster bombs being
used indiscriminately and killing civilians.

If its about the indiscriminate use of CBUs, no problem since neither the UK
nor the US employed *any* weapon indiscriminately.

If the issue is UXO from CBU employment, this is another matter and one I
believe both the UK and US have done there best to deal with. On averag there's
going to be an approximate 10% dud rate for CBU submunitions (BLUs). In both
Afghanistan and Iraq, leaflets were dropped warning people to stay away from
the unexploded BLUs. Because of the high illiteracy rate in Afghanistan, the
leaflets were in picture form. Because of the remote areas where CBUs were used
in Afghanistan, civilian contact with UXO is minimal. Iraq is a different
story, however a successful one. Submunition dispenser use was pretty heavy in
Iraq and included everything from air delivered to Army ATACMS. Use was
confined, as much as operationally practicable, to use away from major
population areas. With all the use of CBUs in Iraq, and they are still a very
important weapon, the low civilian incident rate (by comparison of quantity
dropped) speaks well for allied air and ground forces.

Those accountable should be punished for their actions.

Current CBUs meet all international requirements for a legal weapon, thus no
punishment is warrented.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"