AOPA Flight Planner - Microsoft only?

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:45:55 +0000, Tony Cox wrote:

If you are using Linux or Solaris, have you tried running the
application with 'wine' (www.winehq.com)?

I've tried using wine to run it, but it's not very good at it, though it
does run there are glitches in the graphics and it locks up.

If a person is desperate, then I highly suggest using VMWare, it's the
actual Windows OS of your choice and is pretty good.

Peter Duniho wrote:

For any software company, and especially for
Microsoft, one of the biggest cost centers is customer support.

The last time I needed to call Microsoft (in 1995 or '96), they billed you for
the call at some hefty rate per minute. Scott Adams actually used this as the
basis for one of Dogbert's ideas, which was to sell a purposely flawed product
cheap and make your money on the tech support charges (I am NOT claiming that MS
is doing this). Has Microsoft quit charging for help calls?

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

Martin Hotze wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:19:17 GMT, G.R. Patterson III wrote:

It would be nice to see a system such as
Linux be able to handle the needs of all levels of corporations.

I'd say that many (esp. small) companies might have the need for a win OS.

My former employer topped out at over 8,000 employees in 2001. Hardly small.
Company policy was that every employee had a Windows desktop services login.
Coders would also have Unix and/or MVS logins. These would be accessed by using
something like telnet on the Windows box. As of 2002, all this was on NT with
no plans to change.

I can't understand companies with the above structure and
situation still buying a MS office suite, needing to register with MS,
never versions bringing DRM, closed source, etc.

The company also had a policy against using any sort of freeware. I don't know
why, but they felt they had excellent legal reasons to do so. Many other programs
(such as Word) were used because customers insisted on it.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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[...] Has Microsoft quit charging for help calls?

If you want phone support now, you have to pay. They have free online
support, which still costs money to provide. For that matter, I doubt that
the phone support fees actually cover the cost.

Product Support Services is not a revenue center. It's a cost center.

Pete

Dylan Smith wrote:
Wine just provides the Win32 API and associated cruft. If you have a
Sparc binary for Windows (unlikely!) then Wine would work with it -
otherwise since your Sparc doesn't do ia32 instructions, you're
buggered unless you have an ia32 emulator.

I had a feeling that might be the case, but I was hoping it was a
"real" emulator. The last time I played with wine was when it was in it's
infantile form, and I think the Linux kernel was something like 0.92

--- Jay

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In article , Jay Masino wrote:
I had a feeling that might be the case, but I was hoping it was a
"real" emulator. The last time I played with wine was when it was in it's
infantile form, and I think the Linux kernel was something like 0.92

At that time there was a real emulator of sorts called WABI (Windows
Application Binary Interface). I think it was developed by Sun, and of
course it was Windows 3.1 at the time. WABI treated Intel instructions
as bytecode on non i386 systems, and provided the Win3.1 API. I remember
having to use it to read a Word for Windows document when I had an IBM
RS/6000 Model 220 on my desk, running AIX 4.something.

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For those folks who want to say that since MS is the majority
operating system and all others don't matter becasue they are an
unimportant minoroty, how would you feel if all of a sudden AOPA
started only offering general aviation support for people who own and
fly Cessnas just because there are more of them than any other GA
single-engine plane and used the excuse that all other brands of
aircraft are a minority and don't matter to them?

So when is Plan 9 going to take over the world anyway?

Don

You know full well that is a secret!


"Don Tuite" wrote in message
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So when is Plan 9 going to take over the world anyway?

Don

David Brooks wrote:

Oh, wait, there was a web-based planner, wasn't there. I take back; let's
ask AOPA to restore it. Then I can run it from Redhat Linux running in
Virtual PC on my XP laptop :-)

The web based planner was just CSC DUATS with the AOPA logo in front of it. CSC
DUATS didn't go anywhere, it's still at http://www.duats.com. Don't get too
excited, it still works just fine.


But for web based access, I prefer duat.com. duats.com is better when you are
using their front end software, Cirrus.