Any other hotels near or on airports?

The town is a BIG antique tourist trap. That and "Bed and Breakfast"
type places. Its also less than an hour drive away from the LBJ ranch. I
would actually have to say I haven't heard much of anything in the way
of fly-ins there. I'm guessing its mostly vacationers staying there.

I have to admit, I've not been to fredricksburg since this place opened.
I used to have family there, before they relocated.

Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
The Hangar Hotel looks like a GREAT place to visit.

Yes.. Fredricksburg.. less than an hours DRIVE from Kerrville, home of the
Mooney factory.. West of Austin, Northwest of San Antonio, and close to
Luckenbach.


Any feel on how they're doing? I've not been able to get a grasp on what
their main source of guests/income is, outside of fly-ins.

Are they close enough to the city to be able to attract non-flying guests?

The aggies have a BOOMING flyin every time there is a home game at Kyle
Field. By that, I mean they close a runway and park planes on it, since
the ramp is not enough. What I am NOT sure of is wether there is
property ON field or close to it for a hotel.

However, in addition to the home games, one other BIG draw is the
Brayton Fire Field, located to the south of the runways. The Texas
Engineering Extension service of TAMU operates one of the most renowned
firefighting schools in the US. In addition to training municipal
professional firefighters, they host industrial firefighters from
"local" petrochemical industry down in Houston, Texas City and elsewhere
during weekend and weeklong fire schools. TEEX also hosts training
weekend and weeklong fire schools for the region's volunteer
firefighters. As a former volunteer, I can vouch for that being the
"oshkosh" for my colleagues when I volunteered.

The firefighters arent a bunch of pilots, but they DO use a lot of hotel
rooms, and tend to rent blocks of them.

Dave


Jay Honeck wrote:

I think Easterwood Field at College Station fills your bill.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/CLL. Home of Texas A&M
http://www.tamu.edu, enrollment 40,000+.


Wow - that field is like an "Iowa City clone"...right down to the
triangular runway layout!

Thanks, John.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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However, in addition to the home games, one other BIG draw is the
Brayton Fire Field, located to the south of the runways. The Texas
Engineering Extension service of TAMU operates one of the most renowned
firefighting schools in the US. In addition to training municipal
professional firefighters, they host industrial firefighters from
"local" petrochemical industry down in Houston, Texas City and elsewhere
during weekend and weeklong fire schools. TEEX also hosts training
weekend and weeklong fire schools for the region's volunteer
firefighters. As a former volunteer, I can vouch for that being the
"oshkosh" for my colleagues when I volunteered.

The firefighters arent a bunch of pilots, but they DO use a lot of hotel
rooms, and tend to rent blocks of them.

Dave

Small world! I was just down there at the end of August for HAZMAT training. I did the Industrial firefighting
course back in the late 90's. Those evolutions were awesome! I've never come away from training of any sort with
such a sense of accomplishment. Only downside was our instructor made it clear that we were now graduates of an
extension of T A&M and could no longer tell aggie jokes. BTW, as a volunteer firefighter you rank right up there
with my other heroes.

Joe Schneider
8437R




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He said that there were literally dozens of people actually *living* on
the beach, because (a) the weather is beautiful, and (b) for political
reasons Santa Barbara is unwilling to do anything about transients.

True?

What year was that?

Fall/Winter of 2004.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Sorry I'm coming into this thread without many of the preceding posts
available. Has anybody mentioned the hotel on the airport at KSGU, St.
George, Utah?

Not to my knowledge. What can you tell me about it?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:55:59 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
jsv3f.431577$x96.386132@attbi_s72::

He said that there were literally dozens of people actually *living* on
the beach, because (a) the weather is beautiful, and (b) for political
reasons Santa Barbara is unwilling to do anything about transients.

True?

What year was that?

Fall/Winter of 2004.

I thought it might have been after California Governor Ronnie RayGun
emptied the state mental hospitals and doubled the state militia. Up
until that time there were no homeless apparent in California.

I have never seen anyone living on the beach in the Santa Barbara area
during the many years I have visited there.

He said that there were literally dozens of people actually *living* on
the beach, because (a) the weather is beautiful, and (b) for political
reasons Santa Barbara is unwilling to do anything about transients.

True?

What year was that?

Fall/Winter of 2004.

I thought it might have been after California Governor Ronnie RayGun
emptied the state mental hospitals and doubled the state militia. Up
until that time there were no homeless apparent in California.

I have never seen anyone living on the beach in the Santa Barbara area
during the many years I have visited there.

Thanks. I suppose it's possible for you *both* to be right -- I doubt you
cruised the beach at 2 AM, for example! That would have been prime time
for him.

It makes sense to me that Santa Barbara's beach would be a haven for the
homeless. The perfect climate combined with a relaxed political attitude
would certainly make it attractive.

Of course, telling the "homeless" apart from the "normal" beach bums might
be difficult... Heck, half the guys flying the bench at our airport every
weekend look homeless...

;-)

(By the way, emptying the mental hospitals in the name of "fairness"
happened nationwide, not just in Reagan's California. It's a national
shame we all must bear to this day.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Rsv3f.431583$x96.307050@attbi_s72...
Sorry I'm coming into this thread without many of the preceding posts
available. Has anybody mentioned the hotel on the airport at KSGU, St.
George, Utah?

Not to my knowledge. What can you tell me about it?
--


Lemme see, now... The airport is about five minutes from the business
district of St. George and seven minutes from the ever-expanding housing.
Three minutes from the brand new hospital. And, oh yeah, about 500 feet
above them.

Airport drive intersects with Bluff Street which might be a clue. Half to
two-thirds of the single runway sits in the wind shadow of an even higher
bluff. If you kiss the numbers on the approach to R-16, Atlas won't give you
the same thrill as you get when you take off. That's when the headwind
becomes a 90 degree right crosswind. With all that said, the winds have
never been more than ten knots the half-dozen times I've flown in there.

The hotel is nothing special, I think AAA gave a One-star rating. I occupies
some land next to the touch-down on R-16 on the east side. Plenty of
parking. The view over the city is great. I've never stayed there since my
daughter lives just up the road. Rental cars are available from brands H, A,
E, B, and others.

The population rate is increasing -- the business base is expanding faster
than housing availablity. Some of the population growth is attributed to
reasonable cost of living and affordable housing. It is less than an hour
flight from Lost Wages. Forty-minutes drive from Zion Canyon and a little
more from the Nat'l Park. Tourism includes an outdoor ampitheater

Direct Aviation is a bunch of friendly folks. I'm checked out in their -172
and Cherokee fleet. There really isn't an FBO as such. Fuel is self service.
United Express has a commuter terminal. Dago Red used to be stationed there.
Lots of acreage devoted to hangars. Major aircraft maintenance is available.

If you'd like, I'll email you details on ownership and contact. That'll
take a couple days. I'll have to put my son-in-law on it to get the
information.

Go Fly!

Casey

"Dave S" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well,

Just for examples of things that are out there.. Fredericksburg Texas
has a hotel on field. http://www.hangarhotel.com/ . The town is a bed and
breakfast haven, and the main drag is like a giant flea market/antique
show. No colleges. Admiral Nimitz Museum is there.

Galveston, Texas has a field that is capable of handing airliners, has
an ILS, has a waterpark being built on-site, has the Lone Star Flight
Museum, has Moody Gardens Hotel and Convention Center adjacent to the
field (but its not aviation themed). The city focuses on the "family
factor" with regards to spring break and has an alcohol ban on the
majority of beaches. There is a Mardi Gras celebration there that is a
distant second to what used to occur in New O. There are several colleges
in the vicinity, but none are in NCAA athletics. Vulnerabilities include
coastal location with the hurricane risk. Also, 50% of the surrounding
area is water.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KGLS

New Braunsfels, Texas is a VERY popular tourist area in Texas, with no
hotel on field. There are a few nearby. The field is a few miles from
town, but not in the boonies by any stretch. The draw of this town is a
historical spot called "Gruene" that is shops, antiques and some wonderful
riverfront dining. The REAL draw, however, is the summer "toobing"
industry. The Guadeluper rive meanders through 20 miles of canyons and
hills downstream of Canyon Lake. People come by the thousands to ride the
river. San Antonio is 30 miles south (large town). San Marcos is 20 or so
miles to the north, and is home to Texas State University (formerly
Southwest Texas State University). I go to New Braunsfels annually to semi
annually. The Southwest Regional Flyin was held at New Braunsfels a few
years ago, and now is being held at Hondo, 40-50 miles to the south. I
would forsee good bookings on that weekend by pilots (stay at the hotel,
fly to the flyin - hotels are scarce in Hondo). I would gather that you
would have good bookings most summers of the year by general public due to
the toobing (innertubing/rafting). A few miles off the interstate as well.

Just some things that I could come up with.
Dave



How about the Sandpiper Inn at KTFW? I found this page,
http://www.scogginblue.com/B/tx/fortworth/80sai showing that it is/was for
sale. Never stayed there, so I have no idea of what it's like.

Jay Honeck wrote:

So we've got three years of creating/running an aviation-theme-suite hotel
under our belt now, things are going well, and it's time to start thinking
about adding another location.

Trouble is, I'm afraid that our current location may be almost unique.
Here's what we need in order to duplicate our success:

1. A small-to-medium hotel on, or adjacent to, an airport.
2. The airport must be very close to the city that it serves. No
"out-in-the-boonies" airports, please.
3. The city must have another attraction that creates hotel business.

In our case, it's the University of Iowa that creates the alternative
business. (There simply aren't enough of us pilots to solely support a
hotel, sad to say.) In other locales, it might be a tourist attraction.

KIER has a college and high school campus very near, multiple runways
and is untowered. http://www.lsmsa.edu and http://www.nsula.edu
The town is very famous and has been featured in several movies. They
recently built alot of condo's for the campus, but rent housing is still
very tight. Several hotels around, most newer ones are along I-49. There
is an older Holiday Inn off the end of Runway 17.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIER

Any suggestions? We would prefer a warm-weather climate, to off-set our
Midwest location, and to prolong the flying season -- but we're open to
suggestions. (Ideally, it would be fun to have a southern hotel to run in
winter, and the Iowa location to run in summer! :-)

(Better yet, an Australian location to run from November - April, and our
Iowa location to run form May - October!)

KLFT (towered) / 3R7 (untowered) have serveral near the airports. You
can taxi up to one at 3R7. 2L0 (untowered) is really nice, runway 18
leads you out over the lake, KLFT is bordered by a river...

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLFT (3 runways, 1 parallel)
http://www.airnav.com/airport/3R7 (3 runways, 1 is a grass strip)
http://www.airnav.com/airport/2L0 (1 runway, plus seaplane base, very
active EAA group) http://www.eaa614.org