A reluctance to take the controls

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B A R R Y wrote:

His does....it goes 'round and 'round in about a five foot circle; has a
little rubber ball that goes "Toot".

You owe me a monitor and a new beer...

you are not taking appropriate care of your beer.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

There goes that foot...

All the way to the knee this time, Jay?

mike

Oh yeah...:-)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck

I've voted for Democrats, and I'll get the IR someday.

"Someday" is not the same as "all over it like stink on you-know-what".

Jose
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"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
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I guess you're right.

Did I just hear Jay Honeck say that? i just lost a fortune on air
conditioning stock in Hades.

I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

At least you didn't say "miss-wired".

g,d Jose
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what they are." - (mike).
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"Scott Post" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

It is a rare person, indeed, who refuses the chance to "steer" -- but
it happened Friday with a 24 year old girl in the right seat.

My wife was a pilot for a number of years before I took up lessons. Not
once before taking lessons did I touch the controls. I just had no
interest. Motorcycles were my thing, flying was hers. My first lesson
this past Spring was the first time I'd touched the yoke. I did it
as a safety thing since we'd been doing regular $100 hamburgers and
flights to her parents with the kids aboard and because I thought flying
would be a nice thing for my wife and I to share.

That first lesson was an eye opener - a plane is like a 3D motorcycle.
Now I'm hooked. I'll be tooling around central Indiana in a J-3 Cub
an hour and a half from now.

--
Scott Post


You're a brave man to share these Hoosier skies with me!

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DW

Jay Honeck wrote:
Maybe instead of "make a pot..." I should have said "vote Democratic",
or "get an instrument rating".


I've voted for Democrats, and I'll get the IR someday.

Why not get it today? You are missing an opportunity that few people
(even fewer than those who get a chance to take the wheel of an
airplane) get to experience. I just can't understand any pilot who
wouldn't want to earn their instrument rating as soon as regulations
allow. I guess such pilots are just mis-wired. :-)

Matt

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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Scott Post" wrote in message
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I was only answering for myself. I still offer non-pilots a chance to
"fly" and most are tickled pink. My 8 year old "flew" with me on Friday
and had a ball. It just didn't interest me before I could do everything
myself.

Your prerogative. IMHO, you're missing out. Why limit your experiences to
things you can only do to some minimum standard? You're sitting there.
You've got nothing better to do. Why not take the moment?

How does this jive with your question for Jay about experiencing being sodomized
by a guy? :-)

Just so you don't think I'm a total dud, I did drive a cherry picker
yesterday. My neighbor rented it to hang xmas lights. I took him up on
his offer to use it. Great fun - ended up hanging lights all over the
house and in every tree in the front yard. I hope he rents it again
after xmas 'cuz otherwise I'll have to cut down the trees to get the
lights down.

--
Scott Post

I do a lot of first time intro flights or joy rides in gliders, I normally
begin after they've had a chance to look around and gather their awarness of
what is around them and the distant views.. some get concerned that they
are now alone up there, the powered aicraft that took them aloft is no
longer in front of them.

I have them follow me on the controls and show them the basics.. pitch
(fwd/aft) controls airspeed, left and right keeps the wings level (we have a
stick).. everythign happens slow and easy.. after awhile I ask them if they
are ready to fly.. or I comment that they are doing pretty good, me being in
the back seat, they don't know I took my hands off the controls a couple of
minutes earlier and they are doing the corrections.. some don't believe I
have let go until I show them my hands, some take coaxing to actually move
the stick..

One young lady, once the tow plane had left.. I had her pull the release....
then she says "now wait a minute, that plane pulled us up here, and now it
is gone.. how are we flying?"

I explained that we are flying on gravity and the wind currents.. gravity
pulls us back to earth, much like a falling leaf, but with these flight
controls, and the shape of the wing, I can control how we fall.. I can
control the direction and the forward speed.. I can turn.. slow down.. speed
up.. and every once in a while, you feel these bumps.. and that insturment
there tells us it is rising air.. so by trying to stay in the rising air..
we can stay aloft and climb higher... as the wind or air moves up and over
the ridge below us, we ride that rising air much like a surfer rides the
wave.. gravity pulls him to the bottom of the wave.. but he can control it
and ride the upswelling wave..

So in a sense... we are "Falling With Style"...

But yes.. I have had passengers that enjoyed the ride.. enjoyed the views..
seemed to understand everything going on around them... but dared not touch
the controls. I can only think that they must have been afraid that their
touch would undo everything that is keeping them aloft.

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Mary and I have given rides to dozens of people over the years. I
usually like to let a newbie ride in the right seat with me, and will
usually let them "take the wheel" once we're safely at altitude. Most
people love their new-found freedom, while others are tentative and not
quite sure what to think.

It is a rare person, indeed, who refuses the chance to "steer" -- but
it happened Friday with a 24 year old girl in the right seat.
Actually, Mary was up front with her, while I was in back with her
boyfriend (which is still a very weird feeling, sitting in the BACK of
your own plane, in flight) -- and when Mary offered her the controls,
she politely refused.

What *is* that, anyway? This girl is a wonderfully intelligent, highly
educated young lady, with no tendency toward timidness or air sickness,
yet, when given the chance to try something that VERY few people on
this planet will ever get to do, she refused. Stranger still, she has
flown with us before (albeit in the back seat), so it's not like she's
afraid of flying.

I'm trying to remember if that has ever happened with me in the left
seat, and -- although I've sensed reluctance a time or two -- I don't
think anyone has ever said "No, thanks" to my offer to take the yoke.
Perhaps it's because I give them little choice, and Mary *asked*?

It just seems odd to me, and rather sad. I don't want folks believing
that airplanes fall out of the sky as soon as an experienced pilot lets
go of the controls...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Peter Duniho" wrote

Key word there being "almost".

I really do mean almost. I threw that in there to avoid, say, sex with anther
guy.

I'm sure I can name quite a few things that, in spite of being popular with
some people, you would refuse to try even once.

Darn few.

But that isn't really important to the discussion.
--
Jim in NC

"Peter Duniho" wrote

Before you go accusing someone a troll, you might think about at least
double-checking your impressions with Google first.

Probably should.

Your last two pronouncments (including this one) are easily disproved simply
by looking at what those posters actually post.

Last two?

If you are talking about MX, you would have to prove me wrong. You couldn't do
it.

This one, I guess it is guilt by association with and support of troll number 1.
Perhaps it is wrong, so I'll wait and see.
--
Jim in NC