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Old March 21st 07, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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megaMAX wrote in
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:18:33 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Most commercial flights are flown on autopilot for the vast majority
of the trip. Thus you would have seen autopilot corrections, not
pilot corrections.


Yes, this is really probable, since it was a very regular and periodic
correction, every few seconds.

Most likely there was nothing wrong, so there was nothing that needed
to be done. Constant small corrections are normal in flight. If
there are substantial winds aloft (and there usually are), the
corrections are likely to be mostly in one direction.


Ok, but what about landing? The landing runway wasn't in the same
direction of the rest of the flight, so the wind probably was blowing
in a different direction.

My sensation was that, at the moment of landing, the pilot was really
not able to have a good trim due to a decise clockwise roll, that he
was really not able to correct with the normal actions, despite of
various tentatives. The impression was like that the right engine was
not enough "powerful", or the airplane was heavier on the right side.
Of course, impressions of a not-expert people.

But since I had a large number of flights in my life and I know what
happens in case of lateral wind, also during landing, I repeat that my
sensation was not of lateral wind.

From your description, there is no reason to believe that the flight
was in any danger, and the corrections sound like nothing more than
what is normal for any flight.


Ok, thank you: I was really calm during the flight, only after landing
I was wondering about what has happened and I was curious about that.


you're an idiot


Bertie
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Old March 21st 07, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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C J Campbell writes:

Just so you know, Msxmanic does not know any more about flight than
you do. He is not a pilot.


Correction: Actually, Mxsmanic knows a great deal,


No, you don't




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Old March 21st 07, 02:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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EridanMan writes:

The problem is that you do not know what you do not know ...


A greater problem is that a lot of pilots here don't know, either,


I do, and I know you are full of ****...



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Old March 21st 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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TheSmokingGnu writes:

Do deny that airliners are fitted with artificial feel systems?


Some are. But feel varies significantly from one aircraft to another.
Sometimes it is simulated just because pilots expect it.


God you're clueless.



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Old March 21st 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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TheSmokingGnu writes:

So you admit that in expecting it, the pilots must necessarily feel
it (or rather, expect to feel it; want to feel it; know that they
should feel it; know that it should exist).


They want to feel it. They don't need it.



Yes, they do...



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Old March 21st 07, 02:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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MXMORON writes:

Since you haven't tried, how can you know this?


Research.


Bwawhahhwhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhah whahhwhahw!


You don't even know what they're for, fjukkkwit



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Old March 21st 07, 02:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

More than possible that the poster had a middle ear infection.


I don't see the connection between a middle-ear infection and what he
saw or believed.


of course you don't, but it's the first thing I thought of..

wonder why?


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Old March 21st 07, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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EridanMan writes:

They do not have too. They only need to get the aircraft close

enough
for wing dihedral to do the rest. Its called a dynamically stable
aircraft design, and its been a cornerstone of aviation almost since
its inception.


Until Airbus came along.


Again, you know not of whence you speak....


Bertie


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Old March 21st 07, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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EridanMan writes:

Minor Harmonic oscillations in flights are a natural byproduct of the
dynamic stability of modern aircraft. The Autopilot has no part in
it.


Do these oscillations cause control surfaces to move by themselves?
Are they asymmetrical?

When the oscillations are on the Longitudinal axis, they are called
phugoid oscillations, I'm not sure if there is a similar term for the
roll equivolents ...


Dutch roll and spiral come to mind, although they are not limited
exclusively to the roll axis.


You don't even know what either of those are fjukkwit


Bertie
 




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